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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com, airlied@linux.ie,
	daniel@ffwll.ch
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/21] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:36:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a51f7552-cec6-efe1-25dd-76422ef7a3e4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc746d91-e6b2-53d8-17ff-59cbc8bb522f@kapsi.fi>

13.01.2021 21:56, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
> On 1/13/21 8:14 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 11.01.2021 16:00, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>> +struct drm_tegra_submit_buf {
>>> +    /**
>>> +     * @mapping_id: [in]
>>> +     *
>>> +     * Identifier of the mapping to use in the submission.
>>> +     */
>>> +    __u32 mapping_id;
>>
>> I'm now in process of trying out the UAPI using grate drivers and this
>> becomes the first obstacle.
>>
>> Looks like this is not going to work well for older Tegra SoCs, in
>> particular for T20, which has a small GART.
>>
>> Given that the usefulness of the partial mapping feature is very
>> questionable until it will be proven with a real userspace, we should
>> start with a dynamic mappings that are done at a time of job submission.
>>
>> DRM already should have everything necessary for creating and managing
>> caches of mappings, grate kernel driver has been using drm_mm_scan for a
>> long time now for that.
>>
>> It should be fine to support the static mapping feature, but it should
>> be done separately with the drm_mm integration, IMO.
>>
>> What do think?
>>
> 
> Can you elaborate on the requirements to be able to use GART? Are there
> any other reasons this would not work on older chips?

We have all DRM devices in a single address space on T30+, hence having
duplicated mappings for each device should be a bit wasteful.

> I think we should keep CHANNEL_MAP and mapping_ids, but if e.g. for GART
> we cannot do mapping immediately at CHANNEL_MAP time, we can just treat
> it as a "registration" call for the GEM object - potentially no-op like
> direct physical addressing is. We can then do whatever is needed at
> submit time. This way we can have the best of both worlds.

I have some thoughts now, but nothing concrete yet. Maybe we will need
to create a per-SoC ops for MM.

I'll finish with trying what we currently have to see what else is
missing and then we will decide what to do about it.

> Note that partial mappings are already not present in this version of
> the UAPI.

Oh, right :) I haven't got closely to this part of reviewing yet.

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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com, airlied@linux.ie,
	daniel@ffwll.ch
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, talho@nvidia.com,
	bhuntsman@nvidia.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/21] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:36:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a51f7552-cec6-efe1-25dd-76422ef7a3e4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc746d91-e6b2-53d8-17ff-59cbc8bb522f@kapsi.fi>

13.01.2021 21:56, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
> On 1/13/21 8:14 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 11.01.2021 16:00, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>> +struct drm_tegra_submit_buf {
>>> +    /**
>>> +     * @mapping_id: [in]
>>> +     *
>>> +     * Identifier of the mapping to use in the submission.
>>> +     */
>>> +    __u32 mapping_id;
>>
>> I'm now in process of trying out the UAPI using grate drivers and this
>> becomes the first obstacle.
>>
>> Looks like this is not going to work well for older Tegra SoCs, in
>> particular for T20, which has a small GART.
>>
>> Given that the usefulness of the partial mapping feature is very
>> questionable until it will be proven with a real userspace, we should
>> start with a dynamic mappings that are done at a time of job submission.
>>
>> DRM already should have everything necessary for creating and managing
>> caches of mappings, grate kernel driver has been using drm_mm_scan for a
>> long time now for that.
>>
>> It should be fine to support the static mapping feature, but it should
>> be done separately with the drm_mm integration, IMO.
>>
>> What do think?
>>
> 
> Can you elaborate on the requirements to be able to use GART? Are there
> any other reasons this would not work on older chips?

We have all DRM devices in a single address space on T30+, hence having
duplicated mappings for each device should be a bit wasteful.

> I think we should keep CHANNEL_MAP and mapping_ids, but if e.g. for GART
> we cannot do mapping immediately at CHANNEL_MAP time, we can just treat
> it as a "registration" call for the GEM object - potentially no-op like
> direct physical addressing is. We can then do whatever is needed at
> submit time. This way we can have the best of both worlds.

I have some thoughts now, but nothing concrete yet. Maybe we will need
to create a per-SoC ops for MM.

I'll finish with trying what we currently have to see what else is
missing and then we will decide what to do about it.

> Note that partial mappings are already not present in this version of
> the UAPI.

Oh, right :) I haven't got closely to this part of reviewing yet.
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Thread overview: 195+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-11 12:59 [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] gpu: host1x: Use different lock classes for each client Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 14:46   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-22 14:46     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-22 14:48     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 14:48       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 15:19       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 15:19         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 16:01         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 16:01           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 10:20           ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:20             ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:25             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 13:25               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 14:54         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 14:54           ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 18:31           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 18:31             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 19:10             ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 19:10               ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 22:47               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 22:47                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] gpu: host1x: Allow syncpoints without associated client Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:10   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:10     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:32     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:32       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] gpu: host1x: Show number of pending waiters in debugfs Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:16   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:16     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-26 14:34     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 14:34       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-04-01 21:19       ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-01 21:19         ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-02 16:02         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-02 16:02           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-08  4:13           ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08  4:13             ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08  4:25             ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08  4:25               ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08 11:58               ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-04-08 11:58                 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] gpu: host1x: Remove cancelled waiters immediately Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-12 22:07   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:07     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:20     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-12 22:20       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 16:29       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 16:29         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:16         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:16           ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:23       ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:23         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] gpu: host1x: Use HW-equivalent syncpoint expiration check Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:26   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:26     ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] gpu: host1x: Cleanup and refcounting for syncpoints Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:36   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:36     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:44     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:44       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:21       ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:21         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] gpu: host1x: Introduce UAPI header Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:52   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:52     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:12     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:12       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:43       ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:43         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] gpu: host1x: Implement /dev/host1x device node Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:02   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:02     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:15     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:15       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] gpu: host1x: DMA fences and userspace fence creation Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:15   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:15     ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] gpu: host1x: Add no-recovery mode Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] gpu: host1x: Add job release callback Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:55   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:55     ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] gpu: host1x: Add support for syncpoint waits in CDMA pushbuffer Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] gpu: host1x: Reset max value when freeing a syncpoint Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] gpu: host1x: Reserve VBLANK syncpoints at initialization Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:14   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:14     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:56     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:56       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-14  8:36       ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2021-01-14  8:36         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-14 10:34         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-14 10:34           ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 12:30           ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 12:30             ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:00             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 14:00               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 16:44               ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 16:44                 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:32                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 17:32                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 17:57                   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:57                     ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] drm/tegra: Boot VIC during runtime PM resume Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] drm/tegra: Set resv fields when importing/exporting GEMs Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] drm/tegra: Allocate per-engine channel in core code Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 12:35   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 12:35     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:15     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 13:15       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 17:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-01-11 17:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-01-11 17:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-01-12 22:27   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:27     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 13:25   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:25     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:43     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 14:43       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 15:00       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 15:00         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 16:59         ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 16:59           ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] drm/tegra: Implement job submission part of " Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 13:38   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:38     ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:16     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 14:16       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 17:04       ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:04         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] drm/tegra: Add job firewall Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-19 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-19 22:29   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-26  2:45   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-26  2:45     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:20     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x sync point UAPI should not be used for tracking DRM jobs Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:20       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-28 11:08       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 11:08         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 16:58         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-28 16:58           ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-29 17:30           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-29 17:30             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-02-03 11:18             ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-02-03 11:18               ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-02-27 11:19               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-02-27 11:19                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-01  8:19                 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-01  8:19                   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 18:21                 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 18:21                   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 19:57                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 19:57                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 20:13                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 20:13                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:26     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:26       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:57       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:57         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 22:06         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 22:06           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-28 11:46           ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 11:46             ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:35     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] sync_file API is not very suitable for DRM Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:35       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:53       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:53         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 22:26         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 22:26           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:52     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] support option where all commands are collected into a single,dedicated cmdstream Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:52       ` Dmitry Osipenko

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