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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de, h.mitake@gmail.com,
	rpjday@crashcourse.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:25:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adahc071ie4.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49F843BC.7020902@garzik.org> (Jeff Garzik's message of "Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:10:36 -0400")

 > This removal patch is completely pointless, because it moves us
 > backwards to the point where we had a bunch of drivers defining it.

No, the current kernel still requires drivers to define it anyway,
because there are tons of 32-bit architectures that are not x86.

And more than that, centralizing the definition makes the API much more
dangerous for driver authors.

 > At least the networking drivers I messed with (until 11/2008) were
 > always fine with a non-atomic readq.

The commit to niu I keep citing (e23a59e1, "niu: Fix readq
implementation when architecture does not provide one.") shows that
drivers need to take care.  Now, the x86 implementation would happen to
work for that hardware, but eg drivers/infiniband/hw/amso1100 defines
readq with the opposite order -- whether that's required or just an
arbitrary choice, I don't know.  And drivers/infiniband/hw/mthca has
some uses of __raw_writeq() that only work if no other CPU accesses to
the same page can happen between the two halves, so it adds a per-page
spinlock for 32-bit architectures.  etc.

 - R.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-29 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-19 19:45 arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars Robert P. J. Day
2009-04-19 21:12 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-19 21:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-19 22:02     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-19 22:35       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20  0:56         ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20  2:08           ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-20  0:53     ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20  1:20       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-20 10:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 14:47           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-20 16:03             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21  8:33               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21  8:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21  8:57                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 15:44                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:07                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 17:19                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:23                       ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 19:09                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 21:11                           ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 21:16                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-22  0:31                               ` David Miller
2009-04-28 19:05                                 ` [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit Roland Dreier
2009-04-29  5:12                                   ` David Miller
2009-04-29 11:56                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 12:10                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:25                                         ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-04-29 19:59                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13  5:32                                             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:19                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:39                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 23:39                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14  0:49                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-14  7:19                                                       ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-15 23:44                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-17  7:12                                                           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-17  8:06                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 11:35                                                               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-21 11:49                                                                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:42                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:05                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 21:30                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:31                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:54                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:06                                                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-13 22:29                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:21                                       ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-22  0:27                           ` arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars David Miller
2009-04-22  0:25                     ` David Miller

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