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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro
	<kosaki.motohiro-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	general-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:58:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adaljklifkt.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090911064019.GZ4973-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> (Jason Gunthorpe's message of "Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:40:19 -0600")


 > So.. What is the problem with fork? The semantics of what should
 > happen seem natural enough to me, the PD doesn't get copied to the
 > child, so the MR stays with the parent. COW events on the pinned
 > region must be resolved so that the physical page stays with the
 > process that has pinned it - the pin is logically released in the
 > child because the MR doesn't exist because the PD doesn't exist.

This is getting away from the problem that ummunotify is solving, but
handling a COW fault generated by the parent by doing the copy in the
child seems like a pretty major, tricky change to make.  The child may
have forked 100 more times in the meantime, meaning we now have to
change 101 memory maps ... the cost of page faults goes through the roof
probably...

 - R.
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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@inria.fr>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:58:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adaljklifkt.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090911064019.GZ4973@obsidianresearch.com> (Jason Gunthorpe's message of "Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:40:19 -0600")


 > So.. What is the problem with fork? The semantics of what should
 > happen seem natural enough to me, the PD doesn't get copied to the
 > child, so the MR stays with the parent. COW events on the pinned
 > region must be resolved so that the physical page stays with the
 > process that has pinned it - the pin is logically released in the
 > child because the MR doesn't exist because the PD doesn't exist.

This is getting away from the problem that ummunotify is solving, but
handling a COW fault generated by the parent by doing the copy in the
child seems like a pretty major, tricky change to make.  The child may
have forked 100 more times in the meantime, meaning we now have to
change 101 memory maps ... the cost of page faults goes through the roof
probably...

 - R.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-11 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11  4:38 [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  4:38 ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 11:34 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <20090915113434.GF1328-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-15 14:57     ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 14:57       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <ada7hw0gsqz.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-28 20:49         ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-28 20:49           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <20090928204923.GA1960-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-28 21:40             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-28 21:40               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found] ` <aday6omhz9d.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11  5:56   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  5:56     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:03     ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:03       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <adatyzahvbm.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11  6:11         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:11           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]           ` <20090911150552.DB68.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11 16:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-11 16:42               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-11  6:15       ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]         ` <4AA9EAF7.5010401-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11  6:21           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:21             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:22           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:22             ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:40             ` [ofa-general] " Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-11  6:40               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20090911064019.GZ4973-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11 16:58                 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-09-11 16:58                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                   ` <adaljklifkt.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-15  7:03                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-15  7:03                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-15  8:27                       ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15  8:27                         ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 12:38                       ` Jeff Squyres
2009-09-15 12:38                         ` Jeff Squyres
2009-09-16 16:30   ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-16 16:30     ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-16 16:40     ` [ofa-general] " Linus Torvalds
2009-09-16 16:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 11:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 11:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:24     ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <adafxalejiq.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-17 14:32         ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:32           ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]           ` <adaab0tej5c.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-17 14:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:03               ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 15:03                 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                 ` <adazl8td35u.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-17 15:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:22                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:45                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 15:45                     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                     ` <adatyz1d17q.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-18 11:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 11:50                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-29 17:13                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-29 17:13                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                         ` <20090929171332.GD14405-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30  9:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30  9:44                             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                             ` <20090930094456.GD24621-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 16:02                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-30 16:02                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20090930160232.GZ22310-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 18:19                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 18:19                                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20091012181944.GF17138-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:30                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 19:30                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 20:20                                         ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                           ` <20091012202046.GA7648-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13  4:05                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  4:05                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  6:40                                               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                 ` <20091013064006.GC9470-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13 16:27                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13 16:27                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  5:43                                           ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]                                             ` <4AD41373.8010108-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13  6:38                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13  6:38                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30 17:06                               ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-30 17:06                                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 16:32                               ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 16:32                                 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                 ` <ada3a61rc3j.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-02 20:45                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-02 20:45                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-07 22:34                                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-07 22:34                                     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                     ` <ada3a5uq1dk.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 17:33                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-12 17:33                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:43           ` Peter Zijlstra

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