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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Ondrej Kozina <okozina@redhat.com>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Stanislav Kozina <skozina@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: System freezes after OOM
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:01:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1607131659190.92037@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d5e1f84-e886-7b98-cb11-170d7104fd13@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Tetsuo Handa wrote:

> I wonder whether commit f9054c70d28bc214 ("mm, mempool: only set
> __GFP_NOMEMALLOC if there are free elements") is doing correct thing.
> It says
> 
>     If an oom killed thread calls mempool_alloc(), it is possible that it'll
>     loop forever if there are no elements on the freelist since
>     __GFP_NOMEMALLOC prevents it from accessing needed memory reserves in
>     oom conditions.
> 
> but we can allow mempool_alloc(__GFP_NOMEMALLOC) requests to access
> memory reserves via below change, can't we? The purpose of allowing
> ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS via TIF_MEMDIE is to make sure current allocation
> request does not to loop forever inside the page allocator, isn't it?

This would defeat the purpose of __GFP_NOMEMALLOC for oom killed threads, 
so you'd need to demonstrate that isn't a problem for the current users 
and then change the semantics of the gfp flag.

> Why we need to allow mempool_alloc(__GFP_NOMEMALLOC) requests to use
> ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS when TIF_MEMDIE is not set?
> 

mempool_alloc(__GFP_NOMEMALLOC) is forbidden.

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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Ondrej Kozina <okozina@redhat.com>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Stanislav Kozina <skozina@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: System freezes after OOM
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:01:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1607131659190.92037@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d5e1f84-e886-7b98-cb11-170d7104fd13@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, Tetsuo Handa wrote:

> I wonder whether commit f9054c70d28bc214 ("mm, mempool: only set
> __GFP_NOMEMALLOC if there are free elements") is doing correct thing.
> It says
> 
>     If an oom killed thread calls mempool_alloc(), it is possible that it'll
>     loop forever if there are no elements on the freelist since
>     __GFP_NOMEMALLOC prevents it from accessing needed memory reserves in
>     oom conditions.
> 
> but we can allow mempool_alloc(__GFP_NOMEMALLOC) requests to access
> memory reserves via below change, can't we? The purpose of allowing
> ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS via TIF_MEMDIE is to make sure current allocation
> request does not to loop forever inside the page allocator, isn't it?

This would defeat the purpose of __GFP_NOMEMALLOC for oom killed threads, 
so you'd need to demonstrate that isn't a problem for the current users 
and then change the semantics of the gfp flag.

> Why we need to allow mempool_alloc(__GFP_NOMEMALLOC) requests to use
> ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS when TIF_MEMDIE is not set?
> 

mempool_alloc(__GFP_NOMEMALLOC) is forbidden.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-14  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <9be09452-de7f-d8be-fd5d-4a80d1cd1ba3@redhat.com>
2016-07-11 15:43     ` System freezes after OOM Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-11 15:43       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-12  6:49       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-12  6:49         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-12 23:44         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-12 23:44         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-12 23:44           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13  8:35           ` Jerome Marchand
2016-07-13  8:35           ` Jerome Marchand
2016-07-13 11:14             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 11:14             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 11:14               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 14:21               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 14:21                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 11:10           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 11:10           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 11:10             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 12:50             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 12:50               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 13:44               ` Milan Broz
2016-07-13 13:44                 ` Milan Broz
2016-07-13 15:21                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 15:21                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14  9:09                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14  9:09                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14  9:46                     ` Milan Broz
2016-07-14  9:46                       ` Milan Broz
2016-07-13 12:50             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 15:02             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 15:02             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 15:02               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 10:51               ` [dm-devel] " Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 10:51                 ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 12:51               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 12:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 14:00                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 14:00                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 14:59                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 14:59                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 15:25                     ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 15:25                       ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 17:35                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 17:35                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15  8:35                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15  8:35                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15 12:11                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 12:11                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 12:22                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15 12:22                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15 17:02                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 17:02                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-18  7:22                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  7:22                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 14:08                 ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 14:08                   ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 14:08                   ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 15:31                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 15:31                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 17:07                     ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 17:07                       ` Ondrej Kozina
2016-07-14 17:36                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 17:36                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 17:39                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 17:39                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15 11:42                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-15 11:42                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-13 13:19           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-13 13:19             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-13 13:39             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 13:39               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 14:18               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 14:18               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 14:18                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 14:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 14:56                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 15:11                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 15:11                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 23:53                     ` David Rientjes
2016-07-13 23:53                       ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 11:01                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-14 11:01                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-14 12:29                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 12:29                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 20:26                         ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 20:26                           ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 21:40                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-14 21:40                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-14 22:04                             ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 22:04                               ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 11:25                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 11:25                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 21:21                             ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 21:21                               ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 11:01                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-14 12:27                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 12:27                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-14 20:22                         ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 20:22                           ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 11:21                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 11:21                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 21:25                             ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 21:25                               ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 21:39                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 21:39                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 21:58                                 ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 21:58                                   ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 23:53                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 23:53                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-18 15:14                             ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-18 15:14                               ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-14 15:29                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 15:29                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14 20:38                         ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14 20:38                           ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15  7:22                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15  7:22                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15  8:23                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15  8:23                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-15 12:00                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 12:00                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-15 21:47                             ` David Rientjes
2016-07-15 21:47                               ` David Rientjes
2016-07-18  7:39                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-18  7:39                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-18 21:03                                 ` David Rientjes
2016-07-18 21:03                                   ` David Rientjes
2016-07-13 23:53                     ` David Rientjes
2016-07-13 15:11                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-13 14:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-13 13:39             ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-14  0:01             ` David Rientjes [this message]
2016-07-14  0:01               ` David Rientjes
2016-07-14  0:01             ` David Rientjes
2016-07-13 13:19           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-07-12  6:49       ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-11 15:43     ` Mikulas Patocka

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