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From: Mike Yang <reimu@sudomaker.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Zhou Yanjie <zhouyanjie@wanyeetech.com>,
	tudor.ambarus@microchip.com, p.yadav@ti.com, michael@walle.cc,
	miquel.raynal@bootlin.com, richard@nod.at, vigneshr@ti.com,
	broonie@kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, aidanmacdonald.0x0@gmail.com,
	tmn505@gmail.com, paul@crapouillou.net,
	dongsheng.qiu@ingenic.com, aric.pzqi@ingenic.com,
	rick.tyliu@ingenic.com, jinghui.liu@ingenic.com,
	sernia.zhou@foxmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: SPI: Add Ingenic SFC bindings.
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:47:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5505a46-ce76-d0aa-009e-81d9ba16e1d5@sudomaker.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1a0dd15-3621-14e9-b931-417cefaab017@linaro.org>

On 7/24/22 01:43, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 23/07/2022 18:50, Zhou Yanjie wrote:
>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>
>> On 2022/7/23 上午1:46, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2022 18:48, 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie) wrote:
>>>> Add the SFC bindings for the X1000 SoC, the X1600 SoC, the X1830 SoC,
>>>> and the X2000 SoC from Ingenic.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie) <zhouyanjie@wanyeetech.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   .../devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml       | 64 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   1 file changed, 64 insertions(+)
>>>>   create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 00000000..b7c4cf4
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
>>>> +%YAML 1.2
>>>> +---
>>>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml#
>>> File name should be rather based on first compatible, so
>>> ingenic,x1000-sfc.yaml
>>
>>
>> No offense, does it really need to be named that way?
>> I can't seem to find documentation with instructions on this :(
>>
>> The use of "ingenic,sfc.yaml" indicates that this is the documentation
>> for the SFC module for all Ingenic SoCs, without misleading people into
>> thinking it's only for a specific model of SoC. And there seem to be many
>> other yaml documents that use similar names (eg. fsl,spi-fsl-qspi.yaml,
>> spi-rockchip.yaml, spi-nxp-fspi.yaml, ingenic,spi.yaml, spi-sifive.yaml,
>> omap-spi.yaml), maybe these yaml files that are not named with first
>> compatible are also for the same consideration. :)
> 
> We have many bad examples, many poor patterns and they are never an
> argument to add one more bad pattern.

Zhou already mentioned he was unable find the naming guidelines of these .yaml files.

Apparently you think it's unacceptable for new contributors of a certain subsystem to use existing code as examples, and/or they're responsible for figuring out what's a good example and what's a bad one in the existing codebase.

> 
> It might never grow to new devices (because they might be different), so
> that is not really an argument.

It is an argument. A very valid one.

"they *might* be different". You may want to get your hands on real hardware and try another word. Or at least read the datasheets instead of believing your imagination.

I would enjoy duplicating the st,stm32-spi.yaml into st,stm32{f,h}{0..7}-spi.yaml if I'm bored at a Sunday afternoon.

> 
> All bindings are to follow this rule, so I don't understand why you
> think it is an exception for you?

Zhou didn't ask you to make an exception. They have a valid point and they're asking why.

You may want to avoid further incidents of this kind by stop being bossy and actually writing a guideline of naming these .yaml files and publish it somewhere online.

> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof

Best regards,
Mike Yang

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Yang <reimu@sudomaker.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Zhou Yanjie <zhouyanjie@wanyeetech.com>,
	tudor.ambarus@microchip.com, p.yadav@ti.com, michael@walle.cc,
	miquel.raynal@bootlin.com, richard@nod.at, vigneshr@ti.com,
	broonie@kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, aidanmacdonald.0x0@gmail.com,
	tmn505@gmail.com, paul@crapouillou.net,
	dongsheng.qiu@ingenic.com, aric.pzqi@ingenic.com,
	rick.tyliu@ingenic.com, jinghui.liu@ingenic.com,
	sernia.zhou@foxmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: SPI: Add Ingenic SFC bindings.
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:47:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5505a46-ce76-d0aa-009e-81d9ba16e1d5@sudomaker.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1a0dd15-3621-14e9-b931-417cefaab017@linaro.org>

On 7/24/22 01:43, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 23/07/2022 18:50, Zhou Yanjie wrote:
>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>
>> On 2022/7/23 上午1:46, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2022 18:48, 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie) wrote:
>>>> Add the SFC bindings for the X1000 SoC, the X1600 SoC, the X1830 SoC,
>>>> and the X2000 SoC from Ingenic.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie) <zhouyanjie@wanyeetech.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   .../devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml       | 64 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   1 file changed, 64 insertions(+)
>>>>   create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 00000000..b7c4cf4
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
>>>> +%YAML 1.2
>>>> +---
>>>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/spi/ingenic,sfc.yaml#
>>> File name should be rather based on first compatible, so
>>> ingenic,x1000-sfc.yaml
>>
>>
>> No offense, does it really need to be named that way?
>> I can't seem to find documentation with instructions on this :(
>>
>> The use of "ingenic,sfc.yaml" indicates that this is the documentation
>> for the SFC module for all Ingenic SoCs, without misleading people into
>> thinking it's only for a specific model of SoC. And there seem to be many
>> other yaml documents that use similar names (eg. fsl,spi-fsl-qspi.yaml,
>> spi-rockchip.yaml, spi-nxp-fspi.yaml, ingenic,spi.yaml, spi-sifive.yaml,
>> omap-spi.yaml), maybe these yaml files that are not named with first
>> compatible are also for the same consideration. :)
> 
> We have many bad examples, many poor patterns and they are never an
> argument to add one more bad pattern.

Zhou already mentioned he was unable find the naming guidelines of these .yaml files.

Apparently you think it's unacceptable for new contributors of a certain subsystem to use existing code as examples, and/or they're responsible for figuring out what's a good example and what's a bad one in the existing codebase.

> 
> It might never grow to new devices (because they might be different), so
> that is not really an argument.

It is an argument. A very valid one.

"they *might* be different". You may want to get your hands on real hardware and try another word. Or at least read the datasheets instead of believing your imagination.

I would enjoy duplicating the st,stm32-spi.yaml into st,stm32{f,h}{0..7}-spi.yaml if I'm bored at a Sunday afternoon.

> 
> All bindings are to follow this rule, so I don't understand why you
> think it is an exception for you?

Zhou didn't ask you to make an exception. They have a valid point and they're asking why.

You may want to avoid further incidents of this kind by stop being bossy and actually writing a guideline of naming these .yaml files and publish it somewhere online.

> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof

Best regards,
Mike Yang

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-23 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-22 16:48 [PATCH 0/3] Add SFC support for Ingenic SoCs 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 16:48 ` 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 16:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] mtd: spi-nor: Use the spi-mem poll status APIs 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 16:48   ` 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-23  8:30   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-07-23  8:30     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-07-22 16:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: SPI: Add Ingenic SFC bindings 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 16:48   ` 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 17:46   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-22 17:46     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 16:50     ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 16:50       ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 17:43       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 17:43         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 18:47         ` Mike Yang [this message]
2022-07-23 18:47           ` Mike Yang
2022-07-23 19:27           ` Mark Brown
2022-07-23 19:27             ` Mark Brown
2022-07-23 20:07             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 20:07               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 20:49               ` Mike Yang
2022-07-23 20:49                 ` Mike Yang
2022-07-24 15:33                 ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24 15:33                   ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-25 18:30                 ` Rob Herring
2022-07-25 18:30                   ` Rob Herring
2022-07-23 20:05           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 20:05             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-24 14:52             ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24 14:52               ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-22 22:44   ` Rob Herring
2022-07-22 22:44     ` Rob Herring
2022-07-22 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] SPI: Ingenic: Add SFC support for Ingenic SoCs 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 16:48   ` 周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie)
2022-07-22 18:07   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-22 18:07     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-23 16:53     ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 16:53       ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-22 18:38   ` Mark Brown
2022-07-22 18:38     ` Mark Brown
2022-07-23 17:06     ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 17:06       ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 19:32       ` Mark Brown
2022-07-23 19:32         ` Mark Brown
2022-07-24  1:24         ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24  1:24           ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-22 20:03   ` Paul Cercueil
2022-07-22 20:03     ` Paul Cercueil
2022-07-23 17:26     ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 17:26       ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 20:24       ` Paul Cercueil
2022-07-23 20:24         ` Paul Cercueil
2022-07-24 15:29         ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24 15:29           ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-23 15:15   ` Christophe JAILLET
2022-07-23 15:15     ` Christophe JAILLET
2022-07-23 15:15     ` Christophe JAILLET
2022-07-24  1:22     ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24  1:22       ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24  0:43   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-24  0:43     ` kernel test robot
2022-07-24  1:28     ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:28       ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-25 16:58     ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-23 14:47 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Tomasz Maciej Nowak
2022-07-23 14:47   ` Tomasz Maciej Nowak
2022-07-24  1:25   ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24  1:25     ` Zhou Yanjie
2022-07-24  1:28     ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:28       ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:28     ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:28       ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:30     ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:30       ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-24  1:32       ` Vee Page
2022-07-24  1:32         ` Vee Page
2022-07-26  6:13         ` Vee Page
2022-07-26  6:13           ` Vee Page

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