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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:45:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7102c74-18b0-150e-c103-85afa26a8b6a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMmoqgLdMNu7KAV5@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 6/16/21 12:30 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:00:37PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>> Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:
>>> We had a nice comment at the top of membarrier.c explaining why membarrier
>>> worked in a handful of scenarios, but that consisted more of a list of
>>> things not to forget than an actual description of the algorithm and why it
>>> should be expected to work.
>>>
>>> Add a comment explaining my understanding of the algorithm.  This exposes a
>>> couple of implementation issues that I will hopefully fix up in subsequent
>>> patches.
>>>
>>> Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
>>> Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>>  kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/membarrier.c b/kernel/sched/membarrier.c
>>> index b5add64d9698..3173b063d358 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/membarrier.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/membarrier.c
>>> @@ -7,6 +7,61 @@
>>>  #include "sched.h"
>>>  
>>
>> Precisely describing the orderings is great, not a fan of the style of the
>> comment though.
> 
> I'm with Nick on that; I can't read it :/ It only makes things more
> confusing. If you want precision, English (or any natural language) is
> your enemy.
> 
> To describe ordering use the diagrams and/or litmus tests.
> 

I made some changes.  Maybe it's better now.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-16  3:21 [PATCH 0/8] membarrier cleanups Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 1/8] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:00   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16  7:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 23:45       ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:25   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:31     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 17:49   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 17:49     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 18:31     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 3/8] membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:26   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 17:52   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 17:52     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:19   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16  7:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 18:41       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17  1:37         ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17  2:57           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17  5:32             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17  6:51               ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 23:49                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-19  2:53                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19  3:20                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-19  4:27                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17  9:08               ` [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17  9:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 10:00                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17  9:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:06                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17  9:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:03                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:10                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 15:45                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-18  3:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-18  5:04                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 15:02               ` [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-18  0:06                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18  3:35                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-17  8:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 5/8] membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:28   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:08   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 18:08     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 18:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 6/8] powerpc/membarrier: Remove special barrier on mm switch Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:36   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16  4:36     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  9:28   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16  9:28     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 10:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:34       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 10:34         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 11:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 11:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 13:22           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 13:22             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:04             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 15:04               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 15:23               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:23                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:45                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 15:45                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:00                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:00                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:27                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 16:27                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17  8:55                       ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-06-17  8:55                         ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-06-17  8:55                         ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-06-18 12:54                       ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-18 12:54                         ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-18 12:54                         ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-18 13:19                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-18 13:19                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-18 13:36                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-18 13:36                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-18 13:36                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-17 10:40   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 10:40     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 11:23     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17 11:23       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17 11:33       ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 11:33         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 13:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 13:41           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 13:51           ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 13:51             ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 14:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:00               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:20               ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 14:20                 ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 15:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 15:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 15:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 15:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:16             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:16               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-18  0:07   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18  0:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:45   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16  4:45     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16  4:45     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 18:52       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 18:52       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:48       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:48         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:48         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 15:27       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-06-18 15:27         ` Christophe Leroy
2021-06-18 15:27         ` Christophe Leroy
2021-06-16 10:20   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-16 10:20     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-16 10:20     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-16 23:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:58       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:58       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:47   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:47     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:47     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:47     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18  0:12     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18  0:12       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18  0:12       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 16:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 16:31         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 16:31         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 16:31         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 19:58         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 19:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 19:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 20:09           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 20:09             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 20:09             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 20:09             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-19  6:02             ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19  6:02               ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19  6:02               ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19 15:50               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-19 15:50                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-19 15:50                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-20  2:10                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-20  2:10                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-20  2:10                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 15:16   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 15:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 15:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 15:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18  0:13     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18  0:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18  0:13       ` Andy Lutomirski

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