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From: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Srinivas Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	Prakruthi Deepak Heragu <quic_pheragu@quicinc.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Murali Nalajala <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	Trilok Soni <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	Carl van Schaik <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 01/25] docs: gunyah: Introduce Gunyah Hypervisor
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:35:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3a8bb16-7016-c3d6-1cf9-0e56535e51e2@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5dc7438c-e161-915c-c037-19c5099a274f@quicinc.com>

On 7/3/23 5:41 PM, Elliot Berman wrote:
>> If it's signaled after every message is sent, does it
>> indicate that the message has been *received* by VM_B
>> (versus just received and copied by Gunyah)?
>>
> 
> To connect some dots: the Tx vIRQ is fired when the reader reads a 
> message and the number of messages still in the queue decrements to the 
> "not full" threshold.
> 
> https://github.com/quic/gunyah-hypervisor/blob/3d4014404993939f898018cfb1935c2d9bfc2830/hyp/ipc/msgqueue/src/msgqueue_common.c#L142-L148

So the Tx vIRQ on the sender is only fired when the state of the
receiver's Rx queue goes from "full" to "not full".

Normally there is no signal sent, and a sender sends messages
until it gets a "queue full" flag back from a gh_msgq_send()
call.  At that point it should stop sending, until the Tx vIRQ
fires to indicate the receiver queue has "room" (fewer than
the "full threshold" messages are consumed).

There is no way (at this layer of the protocol) to tell whether
a given message has been *received*, only that it has been *sent*
(meaning the hypervisor has accepted it).  And Gunyah provides
reliable delivery (each message received in send order, exactly
once).

Now that I re-read what you said it makes sense and I guess I
just misunderstood.  There *might* be a way to reword slightly
to prevent any misinterpretation.

Thanks.

					-Alex

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From: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Srinivas Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	Prakruthi Deepak Heragu <quic_pheragu@quicinc.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Murali Nalajala <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	Trilok Soni <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	Carl van Schaik <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 01/25] docs: gunyah: Introduce Gunyah Hypervisor
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:35:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3a8bb16-7016-c3d6-1cf9-0e56535e51e2@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5dc7438c-e161-915c-c037-19c5099a274f@quicinc.com>

On 7/3/23 5:41 PM, Elliot Berman wrote:
>> If it's signaled after every message is sent, does it
>> indicate that the message has been *received* by VM_B
>> (versus just received and copied by Gunyah)?
>>
> 
> To connect some dots: the Tx vIRQ is fired when the reader reads a 
> message and the number of messages still in the queue decrements to the 
> "not full" threshold.
> 
> https://github.com/quic/gunyah-hypervisor/blob/3d4014404993939f898018cfb1935c2d9bfc2830/hyp/ipc/msgqueue/src/msgqueue_common.c#L142-L148

So the Tx vIRQ on the sender is only fired when the state of the
receiver's Rx queue goes from "full" to "not full".

Normally there is no signal sent, and a sender sends messages
until it gets a "queue full" flag back from a gh_msgq_send()
call.  At that point it should stop sending, until the Tx vIRQ
fires to indicate the receiver queue has "room" (fewer than
the "full threshold" messages are consumed).

There is no way (at this layer of the protocol) to tell whether
a given message has been *received*, only that it has been *sent*
(meaning the hypervisor has accepted it).  And Gunyah provides
reliable delivery (each message received in send order, exactly
once).

Now that I re-read what you said it makes sense and I guess I
just misunderstood.  There *might* be a way to reword slightly
to prevent any misinterpretation.

Thanks.

					-Alex

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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-13 17:20 [PATCH v14 00/25] Drivers for Gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 01/25] docs: gunyah: Introduce Gunyah Hypervisor Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:32   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:32     ` Alex Elder
2023-07-03 22:41     ` Elliot Berman
2023-07-03 22:41       ` Elliot Berman
2023-07-14 13:35       ` Alex Elder [this message]
2023-07-14 13:35         ` Alex Elder
2023-08-05 17:07   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 17:07     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 02/25] dt-bindings: Add binding for gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:32   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:32     ` Alex Elder
2023-08-05  3:34   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05  3:34     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 03/25] gunyah: Common types and error codes for Gunyah hypercalls Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05  3:39   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05  3:39     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 04/25] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls to identify Gunyah Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 05/25] virt: gunyah: msgq: Add hypercalls to send and receive messages Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05  3:51   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05  3:51     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 06/25] mailbox: Add Gunyah message queue mailbox Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:33   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:33     ` Alex Elder
2023-08-03  0:33   ` Jassi Brar
2023-08-03  0:33     ` Jassi Brar
2023-08-05  4:16   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05  4:16     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 07/25] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add resource manager RPC core Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05  5:02   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05  5:02     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 08/25] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add VM lifecycle RPC Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 17:18   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 17:18     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 09/25] gunyah: vm_mgr: Introduce basic VM Manager Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 17:26   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 17:26     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 10/25] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add RPC for sharing memory Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 17:55   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 17:55     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 11/25] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add/remove user memory regions Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:33   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:33     ` Alex Elder
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 12/25] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add ioctls to support basic non-proxy VM boot Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 13/25] samples: Add sample userspace Gunyah VM Manager Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 18:03   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 18:03     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 14/25] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add platform ops on mem_lend/mem_reclaim Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 18:07   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 18:07     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 15/25] virt: gunyah: Add Qualcomm Gunyah platform ops Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 18:11   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 18:11     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 16/25] docs: gunyah: Document Gunyah VM Manager Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 17/25] virt: gunyah: Translate gh_rm_hyp_resource into gunyah_resource Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 18:15   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 18:15     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 18/25] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add framework for VM Functions Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 19/25] virt: gunyah: Add resource tickets Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 20/25] virt: gunyah: Add IO handlers Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 21/25] virt: gunyah: Add proxy-scheduled vCPUs Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 22/25] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls for sending doorbell Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 23/25] virt: gunyah: Add irqfd interface Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-16 16:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 24/25] virt: gunyah: Add ioeventfd Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v14 25/25] MAINTAINERS: Add Gunyah hypervisor drivers section Elliot Berman
2023-06-13 17:20   ` Elliot Berman
2023-08-05 18:19   ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-05 18:19     ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-06-16 16:35 ` [PATCH v14 00/25] Drivers for Gunyah hypervisor Alex Elder
2023-06-16 16:35   ` Alex Elder

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