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From: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
To: Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Coresight ML <coresight@lists.linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] coresight: tmc: Add shutdown callback for TMC ETR/ETF
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:32:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6efeb9a327ecea615f0f537e0bac616@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ9a7Vj3sL=4O3DU+aJWYLhue1UxQmX4Ba5JdEnmxKDEYo_z4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

On 2020-06-03 19:21, Mike Leach wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 14:34, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-06-03 14:22, Mike Leach wrote:
>> > Hi Sai,
>> >
>> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 13:14, Sai Prakash Ranjan
>> > <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Mike,
>> >>
>> >> On 2020-06-03 16:57, Mike Leach wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:24, Sai Prakash Ranjan
>> >>> <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Mike,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks again for looking at this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2020-06-03 03:42, Mike Leach wrote:
>> >>>> [...]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> SMMU/IOMMU won't be able to do much here as it is the client's
>> >>>>>> responsiblity to
>> >>>>>> properly shutdown and SMMU device link just makes sure that
>> >>>>>> SMMU(supplier) shutdown is
>> >>>>>> called only after its consumers shutdown callbacks are called.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think this use case can be handled slightly differently than the
>> >>>>> general requirements for modular CoreSight drivers.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What is needed here is a way of stopping the underlying ETR hardware
>> >>>>> from issuing data to the SMMU, until the entire device has been shut
>> >>>>> down, in a way that does not remove the driver, breaking existing
>> >>>>> references and causing a system crash.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We could introduce a new mode to the ETR driver - e.g.
>> >>>>> CS_MODE_SHUTDOWN.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At the end of the block tmc_shutdown(struct amba_device *adev), set
>> >>>>> drvdata->mode to CS_MODE_SHUTDOWN & remove the coresight_unregister().
>> >>>>> This new mode can be used to  prevent the underlying hardware from
>> >>>>> being able to restart until the device is re-powered.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This mode can be detected in the code that enables / disables the ETR
>> >>>>> and handled appropriately (updates to tmc_enable_etr_sink and
>> >>>>> tmc_disable_etr_sink).
>> >>>>> This mode will persist until the device is re-started - but because we
>> >>>>> are on the device shutdown path this is not an issue.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This should leave the CoreSight infrastructure stable until the
>> >>>>> drivers are shut down normally as part of the device power down
>> >>>>> process.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sounds good to me, but if the coresight_unregister() is the trouble
>> >>>> point
>> >>>> causing these crashes, then can't we just remove that from
>> >>>> tmc_shutdown()
>> >>>> callback? This would be like maintaining the same behaviour as now
>> >>>> where
>> >>>> on reboot/shutdown we basically don't do anything except for disabling
>> >>>> ETR.
>> >>>
>> >>> No - the new mode prevents race conditions where the thread shutting
>> >>> down the SMMU does the ETR shutdown, but then another thread happens
>> >>> to be trying to start trace and restarts the ETR.
>> >>> It also prevents the condition Mathieu discussed where a thread might
>> >>> be attempting to shutdown trace - this could try to disable the
>> >>> hardware again re-releasing resources/ re-flushing and waiting for
>> >>> stop.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I do not think there will a race between SMMU shutdown and ETR shutdown.
>> >> Driver core takes care of calling SMMU shutdown after its consumer
>> >> shutdown callbacks via device link, otherwise there would already be
>> >> bugs in all other client drivers.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I am not saying there could be a race between tmc_shutdowm and
>> > Smmu_shutdown - there may be a case if the coresight_disable_path
>> > sequence is running and gets to the point of disabling the ETR after
>> > the SMMU callback has disabled it.
>> 
>> I'm confused now - there is no "SMMU callback", we're talking about 
>> the
>> system-wide cleanup from kernel_shutdown_prepare() or
>> kernel_restart_prepare(). As far as I'm aware userspace should be long
>> gone by that point, so although trace may have been left running ||
>            ((offset >= TRCCIDCVRn(0)) && (offset <= TRCVMIDCVRn(7)), 
> the
>> chance of racing against other driver operations seems pretty 
>> unlikely.
>> 
> 
> Sorry - bad choice of terminology. I was referring to the SMMU
> ensuring that it had all its clients shut-down before if shut down. To
> quote Sai...
> 
>>>>>> SMMU device link just makes sure that
>> >>>>>> SMMU(supplier) shutdown is
>> >>>>>> called only after its consumers shutdown callbacks are called.
> 
> I agree it is unlikely, but if removing the device from the CoreSight
> infrastructure via coresight_unregister() is a potential source of a
> crash, it would seem that there is a potential path where some
> CoreSight driver side work might be possible. therefore a mode to
> prevent this crash, and ensure that the device hardware remains off
> and not sending trace to SMMU until such time as shutdown / reboot
> restart occurs, seemed prudent.
> 

Actually I did not see any crash with coresight_unregister() during
reboot/shutdown as I mentioned previously to Mathieu's query on
this being similar to remove callback. I think the crash with
coresight_unregister() is only seen when we have coresight as module
and the userspace is pretty much there to enable/disable trace when
we try to bind/unbind. But here we only consider the system 
reboot/shutdown
where pretty much everything is down by this point.

Thanks,
Sai
-- 
QUALCOMM INDIA, on behalf of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a 
member
of Code Aurora Forum, hosted by The Linux Foundation

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From: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
To: Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Cc: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Coresight ML <coresight@lists.linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] coresight: tmc: Add shutdown callback for TMC ETR/ETF
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:32:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6efeb9a327ecea615f0f537e0bac616@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ9a7Vj3sL=4O3DU+aJWYLhue1UxQmX4Ba5JdEnmxKDEYo_z4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

On 2020-06-03 19:21, Mike Leach wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 14:34, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-06-03 14:22, Mike Leach wrote:
>> > Hi Sai,
>> >
>> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 13:14, Sai Prakash Ranjan
>> > <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Mike,
>> >>
>> >> On 2020-06-03 16:57, Mike Leach wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:24, Sai Prakash Ranjan
>> >>> <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Mike,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks again for looking at this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2020-06-03 03:42, Mike Leach wrote:
>> >>>> [...]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> SMMU/IOMMU won't be able to do much here as it is the client's
>> >>>>>> responsiblity to
>> >>>>>> properly shutdown and SMMU device link just makes sure that
>> >>>>>> SMMU(supplier) shutdown is
>> >>>>>> called only after its consumers shutdown callbacks are called.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think this use case can be handled slightly differently than the
>> >>>>> general requirements for modular CoreSight drivers.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What is needed here is a way of stopping the underlying ETR hardware
>> >>>>> from issuing data to the SMMU, until the entire device has been shut
>> >>>>> down, in a way that does not remove the driver, breaking existing
>> >>>>> references and causing a system crash.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We could introduce a new mode to the ETR driver - e.g.
>> >>>>> CS_MODE_SHUTDOWN.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At the end of the block tmc_shutdown(struct amba_device *adev), set
>> >>>>> drvdata->mode to CS_MODE_SHUTDOWN & remove the coresight_unregister().
>> >>>>> This new mode can be used to  prevent the underlying hardware from
>> >>>>> being able to restart until the device is re-powered.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This mode can be detected in the code that enables / disables the ETR
>> >>>>> and handled appropriately (updates to tmc_enable_etr_sink and
>> >>>>> tmc_disable_etr_sink).
>> >>>>> This mode will persist until the device is re-started - but because we
>> >>>>> are on the device shutdown path this is not an issue.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This should leave the CoreSight infrastructure stable until the
>> >>>>> drivers are shut down normally as part of the device power down
>> >>>>> process.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sounds good to me, but if the coresight_unregister() is the trouble
>> >>>> point
>> >>>> causing these crashes, then can't we just remove that from
>> >>>> tmc_shutdown()
>> >>>> callback? This would be like maintaining the same behaviour as now
>> >>>> where
>> >>>> on reboot/shutdown we basically don't do anything except for disabling
>> >>>> ETR.
>> >>>
>> >>> No - the new mode prevents race conditions where the thread shutting
>> >>> down the SMMU does the ETR shutdown, but then another thread happens
>> >>> to be trying to start trace and restarts the ETR.
>> >>> It also prevents the condition Mathieu discussed where a thread might
>> >>> be attempting to shutdown trace - this could try to disable the
>> >>> hardware again re-releasing resources/ re-flushing and waiting for
>> >>> stop.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I do not think there will a race between SMMU shutdown and ETR shutdown.
>> >> Driver core takes care of calling SMMU shutdown after its consumer
>> >> shutdown callbacks via device link, otherwise there would already be
>> >> bugs in all other client drivers.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I am not saying there could be a race between tmc_shutdowm and
>> > Smmu_shutdown - there may be a case if the coresight_disable_path
>> > sequence is running and gets to the point of disabling the ETR after
>> > the SMMU callback has disabled it.
>> 
>> I'm confused now - there is no "SMMU callback", we're talking about 
>> the
>> system-wide cleanup from kernel_shutdown_prepare() or
>> kernel_restart_prepare(). As far as I'm aware userspace should be long
>> gone by that point, so although trace may have been left running ||
>            ((offset >= TRCCIDCVRn(0)) && (offset <= TRCVMIDCVRn(7)), 
> the
>> chance of racing against other driver operations seems pretty 
>> unlikely.
>> 
> 
> Sorry - bad choice of terminology. I was referring to the SMMU
> ensuring that it had all its clients shut-down before if shut down. To
> quote Sai...
> 
>>>>>> SMMU device link just makes sure that
>> >>>>>> SMMU(supplier) shutdown is
>> >>>>>> called only after its consumers shutdown callbacks are called.
> 
> I agree it is unlikely, but if removing the device from the CoreSight
> infrastructure via coresight_unregister() is a potential source of a
> crash, it would seem that there is a potential path where some
> CoreSight driver side work might be possible. therefore a mode to
> prevent this crash, and ensure that the device hardware remains off
> and not sending trace to SMMU until such time as shutdown / reboot
> restart occurs, seemed prudent.
> 

Actually I did not see any crash with coresight_unregister() during
reboot/shutdown as I mentioned previously to Mathieu's query on
this being similar to remove callback. I think the crash with
coresight_unregister() is only seen when we have coresight as module
and the userspace is pretty much there to enable/disable trace when
we try to bind/unbind. But here we only consider the system 
reboot/shutdown
where pretty much everything is down by this point.

Thanks,
Sai
-- 
QUALCOMM INDIA, on behalf of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a 
member
of Code Aurora Forum, hosted by The Linux Foundation

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-03 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-01  8:02 [PATCH 0/2] coresight: tmc: Add shutdown callback for TMC ETR/ETF Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01  8:02 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01  8:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] coresight: tmc: Add enable flag to indicate the status of ETR/ETF Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01  8:02   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01 13:27   ` Mike Leach
2020-06-01 13:27     ` Mike Leach
2020-06-01 17:13     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01 17:13       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01  8:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] coresight: tmc: Add shutdown callback for TMC ETR/ETF Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01  8:02   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01 13:35   ` Mike Leach
2020-06-01 13:35     ` Mike Leach
2020-06-01 17:15     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01 17:15       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-01 21:28   ` Mathieu Poirier
2020-06-01 21:28     ` Mathieu Poirier
2020-06-02  7:30     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-02  7:30       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-02 22:12       ` Mike Leach
2020-06-02 22:12         ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 10:24         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 10:24           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 11:27           ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 11:27             ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 12:14             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 12:14               ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 13:22               ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 13:22                 ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 13:34                 ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 13:34                   ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 13:43                   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 13:43                     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 13:51                   ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 13:51                     ` Mike Leach
2020-06-03 14:02                     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan [this message]
2020-06-03 14:02                       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 17:44                   ` Mathieu Poirier
2020-06-03 17:44                     ` Mathieu Poirier
2020-06-04  7:27                     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-04  7:27                       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-08 14:07                       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-08 14:07                         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-09 15:27                         ` Mathieu Poirier
2020-06-09 15:27                           ` Mathieu Poirier
2020-06-09 15:37                           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-09 15:37                             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 11:37     ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 11:37       ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 12:00       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 12:00         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 12:21         ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 12:21           ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 12:26           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 12:26             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 13:40             ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 13:40               ` Robin Murphy
2020-06-03 13:51               ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2020-06-03 13:51                 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan

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