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From: hare@suse.de (Hannes Reinecke)
Subject: [PATCH 3/3] nvme: wwid_show: copy hex string verbatim
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 08:12:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7ad30f7-3697-c0a1-ead1-ada372b1464e@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170715084603.GC23189@lst.de>

On 07/15/2017 10:46 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017@09:40:57PM +0200, Martin Wilck wrote:
>>> True.  Although that only really is a fix for buggy controllers,
>>> and should not affect the PCIe controllers (for which a compliance
>>> test for this exists, unfortunately that doesn't work for fabrics).
>>
>> Is that a NAK, or not?
> 
> That's an ACK for the null vs whitespace changes.  The NAK
> for this patch still stands.
> 
>> "We will"? People are (trying to) use NVMe with multipath today, and
>> they use dm-multipath and multipathd for that. Maybe that'll change
>> some day, but not too soon, I believe.
> 
> Who are these people and why aren't they on the nvme list?  The
> dm-mpath approach is fundamentally wrong for NVMe, and especially
> NVMeOF - e.g. for NVMeOF we have the mandatory keep alive, so doing
> any wonky path checking from userspace is just going to create
> problems.
> 
Hi Christoph; we are on the list :-)

One could argue that _all_ current path checkers in dm-mpath are
'wrong', so it feels a bit of a silly argument.
And it was never meant to be the 'real' solution; but it seems to work
and has the immediate benefit that we're having a solution _now_.
(And as our next release is shipping withing weeks that makes a _really_
compelling argument)
And I'm happy to enter any path checker discussion;
seeing that we've had issues with KATO even now (cf the thread 'I/O
errors due to keepalive timeouts with NVMf RDMA) I somewhat fail to see
the inherent benefits compared to the 'standard' path checkers ...

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-17  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-13 22:25 [PATCH 0/3] Improve readbility of NVME "wwid" attribute Martin Wilck
2017-07-13 22:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] nvmet: identify controller: improve standard compliance Martin Wilck
2017-07-14  7:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-13 22:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] nvme: wwid_show: strip trailing 0-bytes Martin Wilck
2017-07-14  7:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-13 22:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] nvme: wwid_show: copy hex string verbatim Martin Wilck
2017-07-14  7:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-14  9:58     ` Martin Wilck
2017-07-14 12:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-14 19:40         ` Martin Wilck
2017-07-15  8:46           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-17  6:12             ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2017-07-13 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] Improve readbility of NVME "wwid" attribute Keith Busch
2017-07-14  7:54   ` Martin Wilck
2017-07-14  7:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-14  7:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-14  9:41     ` Martin Wilck
2017-07-14 12:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-14  7:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-14  8:54   ` Martin Wilck

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