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From: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Sameer Pujar <spujar@nvidia.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	jonathanh@nvidia.com, kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, sharadg@nvidia.com, thierry.reding@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] ASoC: simple-card-utils: Fix device module clock
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:11:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f21b87f1afb3eda54b5f00f2d1c146d3@walle.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210311161558.GG4962@sirena.org.uk>

Am 2021-03-11 17:15, schrieb Mark Brown:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 08:20:28PM +0530, Sameer Pujar wrote:
> 
>> If I read this correctly below is the configuration you need,
>> SoC -> MCLK(fixed rate) -> PLL(wm8904) -> PLL output (256 * fs) -> 
>> sysclk
> 
> For this device for integration with something like simple-audio-card
> since there's limited flexibility within the device the simplest thing
> would be to not make the internal clocking of the device visible and
> just have it figure out how to use the input clock, using the MCLK
> directly if possible otherwise using the FLL to generate a suitable
> clock.

Before this patch, part of this was already happening. That is,
simple-audio-card called set_sysclk(samplerate * mclk-fs), then
the codec figured out that its mclk was different than the
requested sample rate and enabled its FLL to generate the requested
sample rate automatically.

With this patch applied, simple-audio-card already tries to change
mclk, which isn't working in my case (the MCLK isn't generated by
a PLL and just supports fixed frequencies) and thus breaks audio. And
this patch also propagate to the stable kernels and breaks my
board there, too.

> The trick is figuring out if it's best to vary the input clock
> or to use the FLL to adapt a fixed input clock,

For simple-audio-card you can set the "clock" property if you want
that clock to be changed/enabled/disabled. But that doesn't seem to
be the way to go, at least it was NAKed by Rob for the audio-graph-card.
I don't see a way to figure out if MCLK should be controlled by
simple-*-card without adding further properties to the device tree.

> and of course adapting any existing users if things get changed.

To be frank, I don't see that happening.

-michael

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From: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com, robh@kernel.org,
	Sameer Pujar <spujar@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jonathanh@nvidia.com,
	sharadg@nvidia.com, thierry.reding@gmail.com,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] ASoC: simple-card-utils: Fix device module clock
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:11:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f21b87f1afb3eda54b5f00f2d1c146d3@walle.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210311161558.GG4962@sirena.org.uk>

Am 2021-03-11 17:15, schrieb Mark Brown:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 08:20:28PM +0530, Sameer Pujar wrote:
> 
>> If I read this correctly below is the configuration you need,
>> SoC -> MCLK(fixed rate) -> PLL(wm8904) -> PLL output (256 * fs) -> 
>> sysclk
> 
> For this device for integration with something like simple-audio-card
> since there's limited flexibility within the device the simplest thing
> would be to not make the internal clocking of the device visible and
> just have it figure out how to use the input clock, using the MCLK
> directly if possible otherwise using the FLL to generate a suitable
> clock.

Before this patch, part of this was already happening. That is,
simple-audio-card called set_sysclk(samplerate * mclk-fs), then
the codec figured out that its mclk was different than the
requested sample rate and enabled its FLL to generate the requested
sample rate automatically.

With this patch applied, simple-audio-card already tries to change
mclk, which isn't working in my case (the MCLK isn't generated by
a PLL and just supports fixed frequencies) and thus breaks audio. And
this patch also propagate to the stable kernels and breaks my
board there, too.

> The trick is figuring out if it's best to vary the input clock
> or to use the FLL to adapt a fixed input clock,

For simple-audio-card you can set the "clock" property if you want
that clock to be changed/enabled/disabled. But that doesn't seem to
be the way to go, at least it was NAKed by Rob for the audio-graph-card.
I don't see a way to figure out if MCLK should be controlled by
simple-*-card without adding further properties to the device tree.

> and of course adapting any existing users if things get changed.

To be frank, I don't see that happening.

-michael

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-10  6:43 [PATCH 0/3] Use clocks property in a device node Sameer Pujar
2021-02-10  6:43 ` Sameer Pujar
2021-02-10  6:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] ASoC: simple-card-utils: Fix device module clock Sameer Pujar
2021-02-10  6:43   ` Sameer Pujar
2021-02-11 23:44   ` Kuninori Morimoto
2021-02-11 23:44     ` Kuninori Morimoto
2021-02-14 17:56     ` Sameer Pujar
2021-02-14 17:56       ` Sameer Pujar
2021-02-14 23:25       ` Kuninori Morimoto
2021-02-14 23:25         ` Kuninori Morimoto
2021-03-09 14:41   ` Michael Walle
2021-03-09 14:41     ` Michael Walle
2021-03-09 16:27     ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-09 16:27       ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-09 22:30       ` Michael Walle
2021-03-09 22:30         ` Michael Walle
2021-03-10 14:50         ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-10 14:50           ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-10 18:14           ` Michael Walle
2021-03-10 18:14             ` Michael Walle
2021-03-10 19:19             ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-10 19:19               ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-11 10:27           ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 10:27             ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 11:05             ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-11 11:05               ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-11 11:16               ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 11:16                 ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 14:29                 ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-11 14:29                   ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-11 15:43                   ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 15:43                     ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 16:41                     ` Mark Brown
2021-03-11 16:41                       ` Mark Brown
2021-03-11 16:15           ` Mark Brown
2021-03-11 16:15             ` Mark Brown
2021-03-11 22:11             ` Michael Walle [this message]
2021-03-11 22:11               ` Michael Walle
2021-03-12 11:35               ` Mark Brown
2021-03-12 11:35                 ` Mark Brown
2021-03-12 12:01                 ` Michael Walle
2021-03-12 12:01                   ` Michael Walle
2021-03-12 12:04                   ` Mark Brown
2021-03-12 12:04                     ` Mark Brown
2021-03-12 12:30                     ` Michael Walle
2021-03-12 12:30                       ` Michael Walle
2021-03-12 13:46                       ` Mark Brown
2021-03-12 13:46                         ` Mark Brown
2021-03-15 12:05                         ` Michael Walle
2021-03-15 12:05                           ` Michael Walle
2021-03-15 15:19                           ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-15 15:19                             ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-15 15:33                             ` Michael Walle
2021-03-15 15:33                               ` Michael Walle
2021-03-15 15:57                               ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-15 15:57                                 ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-15 15:39                             ` Mark Brown
2021-03-15 15:39                               ` Mark Brown
2021-03-15 17:10                               ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-15 17:10                                 ` Sameer Pujar
2021-03-15 17:13                                 ` Michael Walle
2021-03-15 17:13                                   ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 16:00     ` Mark Brown
2021-03-11 16:00       ` Mark Brown
2021-03-11 21:34       ` Michael Walle
2021-03-11 21:34         ` Michael Walle
2021-02-10  6:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] Revert "ASoC: audio-graph-card: Add clocks property to endpoint node" Sameer Pujar
2021-02-10  6:43   ` Sameer Pujar
2021-02-11 13:00   ` Mark Brown
2021-02-11 13:00     ` Mark Brown
2021-02-10  6:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: tegra: Move clocks from RT5658 endpoint to device node Sameer Pujar
2021-02-10  6:43   ` Sameer Pujar
2021-02-11 15:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] Use clocks property in a " Mark Brown
2021-02-11 15:38   ` Mark Brown

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