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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "Nakajima\, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH RFC] x86/acpi: don't ignore I/O APICs just because there's no local APIC
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:21:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ljnnnwmc.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C66250DB.DC85%keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com> (Keir Fraser's message of "Sat\, 20 Jun 2009 08\:39\:55 +0100")

Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com> writes:

> On 20/06/2009 00:44, "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com> wrote:
>
>>> I assume that putting AML into Xen has been considered, but I don't
>>> anything about those deliberations.  Keir? Jun?
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it was one of the options years ago. We did not do that because Linux and
>> Solaris (as dom0) already had the AML interpreter and it's overkill and
>> redundant to have such a large component in the Xen hypervisor. Since the
>> hypervisor does most of the power management (i.e. P, C, S-state, etc.)
>> getting the info from dom0 today, we might want to reconsider the option.
>
> Yes, we could reconsider. However is there any stuff that dom0 remains
> responsible for (e.g., PCI management, and therefore PCI hotplug) where it
> would continue to need to be OSPM, interpreting certain AML objects? In
> general how safe would it be to have two layered entities both playing at
> being OSPM?

Short of running the oddball acpi based drivers.  I'm not familiar with
any acpi in the pci management.

Eric


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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86/acpi: don't ignore I/O APICs just because there's no local APIC
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:21:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ljnnnwmc.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C66250DB.DC85%keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com> (Keir Fraser's message of "Sat\, 20 Jun 2009 08\:39\:55 +0100")

Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com> writes:

> On 20/06/2009 00:44, "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com> wrote:
>
>>> I assume that putting AML into Xen has been considered, but I don't
>>> anything about those deliberations.  Keir? Jun?
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it was one of the options years ago. We did not do that because Linux and
>> Solaris (as dom0) already had the AML interpreter and it's overkill and
>> redundant to have such a large component in the Xen hypervisor. Since the
>> hypervisor does most of the power management (i.e. P, C, S-state, etc.)
>> getting the info from dom0 today, we might want to reconsider the option.
>
> Yes, we could reconsider. However is there any stuff that dom0 remains
> responsible for (e.g., PCI management, and therefore PCI hotplug) where it
> would continue to need to be OSPM, interpreting certain AML objects? In
> general how safe would it be to have two layered entities both playing at
> being OSPM?

Short of running the oddball acpi based drivers.  I'm not familiar with
any acpi in the pci management.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-20  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12 18:22 [PATCH RFC] x86/acpi: don't ignore I/O APICs just because there's no local APIC Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-12 18:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-12 18:28 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 18:28   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 18:33   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-12 18:33     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-12 20:11 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2009-06-15  2:01   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-12 20:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-12 20:35   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15  2:06   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-15 10:47     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15 10:47       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15 20:49       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-15 20:49         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-15 21:58         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15 21:58           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-16 19:38           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-16 19:38             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-17  5:10             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-17  5:10               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-17 12:02             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-17 12:02               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-17 17:32               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-17 17:32                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18  2:58                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18  2:58                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18 19:34                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 19:34                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 20:28                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18 21:09                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 21:09                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-19  1:38                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  1:38                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  3:10                           ` [Xen-devel] " Jiang, Yunhong
2009-06-19  3:10                             ` Jiang, Yunhong
2009-06-18 12:26                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15 10:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-15 10:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18 16:08 ` Len Brown
2009-06-18 19:14   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 19:14     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 19:27     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18 19:48       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 19:48         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 20:39         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-18 22:33           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-18 22:33             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-19  2:42             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  2:42               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19 19:58               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-19 19:58                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-19 23:44                 ` [Xen-devel] " Nakajima, Jun
2009-06-19 23:44                   ` Nakajima, Jun
2009-06-20  7:39                   ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2009-06-20  7:39                     ` Keir Fraser
2009-06-20  8:21                     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-06-20  8:21                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-20  8:57                       ` [Xen-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2009-06-20  8:57                         ` Tian, Kevin
2009-06-20 10:22                         ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2009-06-20 10:22                           ` Keir Fraser
2009-06-20  8:18                   ` [Xen-devel] " Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-20  8:18                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  5:32             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-19  5:32               ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-19  5:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  5:50                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  7:52               ` [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH RFC] x86/acpi: don't ignore I/O APICs justbecause " Jan Beulich
2009-06-19  7:52                 ` Jan Beulich
2009-06-19  8:16                 ` [Xen-devel] " Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-19  8:16                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-20  3:58                   ` [Xen-devel] " Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20  3:58                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20  5:40                     ` [Xen-devel] " Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-20  5:40                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-20  5:58                       ` [Xen-devel] " Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20  5:58                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-18 22:51     ` [PATCH RFC] x86/acpi: don't ignore I/O APICs just because " Maciej W. Rozycki

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