From: Toshiaki Makita <toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>, "William Tu" <u9012063@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@netfilter.org>,
Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
Pravin B Shelar <pshelar@ovn.org>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
"Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/15] xdp_flow: Flow offload to XDP
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:47:17 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25ade2e7-a8fe-2adb-8d4c-6cc6add21267@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+HfNga=XFeutQuGvGXkuWKSsDCqak-rjutOzqu-r-pwLL1-w@mail.gmail.com>
On 2019/10/21 20:23, Björn Töpel wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 00:31, Toshiaki Makita
> <toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> [...]
>>
>> * About OVS AF_XDP netdev
>>
>> Recently OVS has added AF_XDP netdev type support. This also makes use
>> of XDP, but in some ways different from this patch set.
>>
>> - AF_XDP work originally started in order to bring BPF's flexibility to
>> OVS, which enables us to upgrade datapath without updating kernel.
>> AF_XDP solution uses userland datapath so it achieved its goal.
>> xdp_flow will not replace OVS datapath completely, but offload it
>> partially just for speed up.
>>
>> - OVS AF_XDP requires PMD for the best performance so consumes 100% CPU
>> as well as using another core for softirq.
>>
>
> Disclaimer; I haven't studied the OVS AF_XDP code, so this is about
> AF_XDP in general.
>
> One of the nice things about AF_XDP is that it *doesn't* force a user
> to busy-poll (burn CPUs) like a regular userland pull-mode driver.
> Yes, you can do that if you're extremely latency sensitive, but for
> most users (and I think some OVS deployments might fit into this
> category) not pinning cores/interrupts and using poll() syscalls (need
> wakeup patch [1]) is the way to go. The scenario you're describing
> with ksoftirqd spinning on one core, and user application on another
> is not something I'd recommend, rather run your packet processing
> application on one core together with the softirq processing.
Thank you for the information.
I want to evaluate AF_XDP solution more appropriately.
William, please correct me if I'm saying something wrong here.
Or guide me if more appropriate configuration to achieve best performance is possible.
>
> Björn
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/1565767643-4908-1-git-send-email-magnus.karlsson@intel.com/#t
Toshiaki Makita
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-18 4:07 [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/15] xdp_flow: Flow offload to XDP Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 01/15] xdp_flow: Add skeleton of XDP based flow offload driver Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 02/15] xdp_flow: Add skeleton bpf program for XDP Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 03/15] bpf: Add API to get program from id Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 04/15] xdp: Export dev_check_xdp and dev_change_xdp Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 05/15] xdp_flow: Attach bpf prog to XDP in kernel after UMH loaded program Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 06/15] xdp_flow: Prepare flow tables in bpf Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 07/15] xdp_flow: Add flow entry insertion/deletion logic in UMH Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 08/15] xdp_flow: Add flow handling and basic actions in bpf prog Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 09/15] xdp_flow: Implement flow replacement/deletion logic in xdp_flow kmod Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 10/15] xdp_flow: Add netdev feature for enabling flow offload to XDP Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 11/15] xdp_flow: Implement redirect action Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 12/15] xdp_flow: Implement vlan_push action Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 13/15] bpf, selftest: Add test for xdp_flow Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 14/15] i40e: prefetch xdp->data before running XDP prog Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 4:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 15/15] bpf, hashtab: Compare keys in long Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-18 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/15] xdp_flow: Flow offload to XDP John Fastabend
2019-10-21 7:31 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-22 16:54 ` John Fastabend
2019-10-22 17:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-24 4:27 ` John Fastabend
2019-10-24 10:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-27 13:19 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-27 15:21 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-28 3:16 ` David Ahern
2019-10-28 8:36 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-28 10:08 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-10-28 19:07 ` David Ahern
2019-10-28 19:05 ` David Ahern
2019-10-31 0:18 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-31 12:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-11 7:32 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-12 16:53 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-14 10:11 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-14 12:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-18 6:41 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-18 10:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-22 5:42 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-22 11:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-25 10:18 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-25 13:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-18 10:28 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-27 13:13 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-27 15:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-27 19:17 ` David Miller
2019-10-31 0:32 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-12 17:50 ` William Tu
2019-11-14 10:06 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-11-14 17:09 ` William Tu
2019-11-15 13:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-12 17:38 ` William Tu
2019-10-23 14:11 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-24 4:38 ` John Fastabend
2019-10-24 17:05 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2019-10-27 13:27 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-27 13:06 ` Toshiaki Makita
2019-10-21 11:23 ` Björn Töpel
2019-10-21 11:47 ` Toshiaki Makita [this message]
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