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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 14:52:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191121125236.GX11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191121114610.GW11621@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 01:46:14PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:34:22PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:28 PM Mika Westerberg
> > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:29:33PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > last week or so I found systems where the GPU was under the "PCI
> > > > > Express Root Port" (name from lspci) and on those systems all of that
> > > > > seems to work. So I am wondering if it's indeed just the 0x1901 one,
> > > > > which also explains Mikas case that Thunderbolt stuff works as devices
> > > > > never get populated under this particular bridge controller, but under
> > > > > those "Root Port"s
> > > >
> > > > It always is a PCIe port, but its location within the SoC may matter.
> > >
> > > Exactly. Intel hardware has PCIe ports on CPU side (these are called
> > > PEG, PCI Express Graphics, ports), and the PCH side. I think the IP is
> > > still the same.
> > >
> > > > Also some custom AML-based power management is involved and that may
> > > > be making specific assumptions on the configuration of the SoC and the
> > > > GPU at the time of its invocation which unfortunately are not known to
> > > > us.
> > > >
> > > > However, it looks like the AML invoked to power down the GPU from
> > > > acpi_pci_set_power_state() gets confused if it is not in PCI D0 at
> > > > that point, so it looks like that AML tries to access device memory on
> > > > the GPU (beyond the PCI config space) or similar which is not
> > > > accessible in PCI power states below D0.
> > >
> > > Or the PCI config space of the GPU when the parent root port is in D3hot
> > > (as it is the case here). Also then the GPU config space is not
> > > accessible.
> > 
> > Why would the parent port be in D3hot at that point?  Wouldn't that be
> > a suspend ordering violation?
> 
> No. We put the GPU into D3hot first, then the root port and then turn
> off the power resource (which is attached to the root port) resulting
> the topology entering D3cold.

I don't see that happening in the AML though.

Basically the difference is that when Windows 7 or Linux (the _REV==5
check) then we directly do link disable whereas in Windows 8+ we invoke
LKDS() method that puts the link into L2/L3. None of the fields they
access seem to touch the GPU itself.

LKDS() for the first PEG port looks like this:

   P0L2 = One
   Sleep (0x10)
   Local0 = Zero
   While (P0L2)
   {
	If ((Local0 > 0x04))
	{
	    Break
	}

	Sleep (0x10)
	Local0++
   }

One thing that comes to mind is that the loop can end even if P0L2 is
not cleared as it does only 5 iterations with 16 ms sleep between. Maybe
Sleep() is implemented differently in Windows? I mean Linux may be
"faster" here and return prematurely and if we leave the port into D0
this does not happen, or something. I'm just throwing out ideas :)
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 12:19 [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17   ` Karol Herbst
     [not found] ` <20191017121901.13699-1-kherbst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-19 20:06   ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 20:06     ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 21:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 21:49   ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]   ` <20191119214955.GA223696-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-19 22:26     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:26       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:57       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 22:57         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-20 10:18       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 10:18         ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]         ` <20191120101816.GX11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 10:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 10:52             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:22             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:22               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:48               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:51                   ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                   ` <CACO55tsjj+xkDjubz1J=fsPecW4H_J8AaBTeaMm+NYjp8Kiq8g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 12:06                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:06                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                       ` <CAJZ5v0ithxMPK2YxfTUx_Ygpze2FMDJ6LwKwJb2vx89dfgHX_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 12:09                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:14                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:14                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:19                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:19                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:11                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:51                 ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                 ` <20191120115127.GD11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 11:54                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:54                     ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                     ` <CACO55tsfNOdtu5SZ-4HzO4Ji6gQtafvZ7Rm19nkPcJAgwUBFMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 11:58                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 12:09                           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                           ` <20191120120913.GE11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 12:11                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:15                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:15                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:37                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:53                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:53                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23                                       ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                       ` <20191120162306.GM11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 21:36                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 21:36                                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 10:14                                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 10:14                                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:03                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <CAJZ5v0hAgz4Fu=83AJE2PYUsi+Jk=Lrr4MNp5ySA9yY=3wr5rg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 11:08                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:17                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:17                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:31                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:31                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:40                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 21:40                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 22:29                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 22:29                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:28                                           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                             ` <20191121112821.GU11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 11:34                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:34                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:46                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:46                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:52                                                   ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2019-11-21 12:56                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 12:56                                                       ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                                                     ` <20191121125236.GX11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 15:43                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:43                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 19:49                                                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 19:49                                                           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                                           ` <20191121194942.GY11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 22:39                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:39                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:50                                                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  0:13                                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  0:13                                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  9:07                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22  9:07                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                     ` <CAJZ5v0jNq77xPXxeYeq_JJBCfekVPVPOye1mZwpQi=+=MKSS7w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 10:36                                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                   ` <CAJZ5v0gifnGZcKr6mgc6C2EfqX13OyJnOac0uDxYNKN=A0cgMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-22 11:34                                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:34                                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:54                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:54                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:52                                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 12:15                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 12:52                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 12:52                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:47                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:47                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:06                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:06                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:39                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:39                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-26 23:10                                                           ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 11:48                                                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:48                                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:51                                                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 11:51                                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 19:51                                                                 ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 19:51                                                                   ` Lyude Paul
2019-12-09 11:17                                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 11:38                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 12:24                                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-10 19:58                                                                       ` Dave Airlie
2019-12-10 20:49                                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31                                                                           ` Karol Herbst

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