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From: Karol Herbst <kherbst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mika Westerberg
	<mika.westerberg-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki"
	<rafael-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki"
	<rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	dri-devel
	<dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	Mario Limonciello
	<Mario.Limonciello-8PEkshWhKlo@public.gmane.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	nouveau
	<nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:36:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACO55tsvTG2E7_3nn1sTdPQXzxaZA96k+gmSBBXjPvei6v=kxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191120162306.GM11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>

with the branch and patch applied:
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/karolherbst/03c4c8141b0fa292d781badfa186479e/raw/5c62640afbc57d6e69ea924c338bd2836e770d02/gistfile1.txt

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:23 PM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:53:07PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 04:37:14PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 01:11:52PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:09 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:58:00PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > > > > overall, what I really want to know is, _why_ does it work on windows?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So do I ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or what are we doing differently on Linux so that it doesn't work? If
> > > > > > > anybody has any idea on how we could dig into this and figure it out
> > > > > > > on this level, this would probably allow us to get closer to the root
> > > > > > > cause? no?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried to use the acpi_rev_override parameter in your system and
> > > > > > does it have any effect?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also did you try to trace the ACPI _ON/_OFF() methods? I think that
> > > > > > should hopefully reveal something.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I did in the past and it seemed to have worked, there is just
> > > > > one big issue with this: it's a Dell specific workaround afaik, and
> > > > > this issue plagues not just Dell, but we've seen it on HP and Lenovo
> > > > > laptops as well, and I've heard about users having the same issues on
> > > > > Asus and MSI laptops as well.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it is not a workaround at all but instead it simply determines
> > > > whether the system supports RTD3 or something like that (IIRC Windows 8
> > > > started supporting it). Maybe Dell added check for Linux because at that
> > > > time Linux did not support it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > the point is, it's not checking it by default, so by default you still
> > > run into the windows 8 codepath.
> >
> > Well you can add the quirk to acpi_rev_dmi_table[] so it goes to that
> > path by default. There are a bunch of similar entries for Dell machines.
> >
> > Of course this does not help the non-Dell users so we would still need
> > to figure out the root cause.
>
> I think I asked you to test the PCIe delay patch and it did not help but
> I wonder if it helps if we increase the delay. As an experiment could
> you try Bjorn's pci/pm branch. The last two commits are for the delay.
>
> If you could pull that branch and apply the following patch on top and
> give it a try? Then post the dmesg somewhere so we can see whether it
> did the delay at all.
>
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> index 1f319b1175da..1ad6f1372ed5 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> @@ -4697,12 +4697,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>                 return;
>         }
>
> -       /* Take d3cold_delay requirements into account */
> -       delay = pci_bus_max_d3cold_delay(dev->subordinate);
> -       if (!delay) {
> -               up_read(&pci_bus_sem);
> -               return;
> -       }
> +       delay = 500;
>
>         child = list_first_entry(&dev->subordinate->devices, struct pci_dev,
>                                  bus_list);
> @@ -4715,7 +4710,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>          * management for them (see pci_bridge_d3_possible()).
>          */
>         if (!pci_is_pcie(dev)) {
> -               pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for secondary bus\n", 1000 + delay);
> +               pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for secondary bus\n", 1000 + delay);
>                 msleep(1000 + delay);
>                 return;
>         }
> @@ -4741,10 +4736,10 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>                 return;
>
>         if (pcie_get_speed_cap(dev) <= PCIE_SPEED_5_0GT) {
> -               pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay);
> +               pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay);
>                 msleep(delay);
>         } else {
> -               pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n",
> +               pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n",
>                         delay);
>                 if (!pcie_wait_for_link_delay(dev, true, delay)) {
>                         /* Did not train, no need to wait any further */
> @@ -4753,7 +4748,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>         }
>
>         if (!pci_device_is_present(child)) {
> -               pci_dbg(child, "waiting additional %d ms to become accessible\n", delay);
> +               pci_info(child, "waiting additional %d ms to become accessible\n", delay);
>                 msleep(delay);
>         }
>  }
>

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From: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:36:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACO55tsvTG2E7_3nn1sTdPQXzxaZA96k+gmSBBXjPvei6v=kxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20191120213631.prYqiJEzftxcP-SnAhpK4F7JVcRZ7EfmQpk5RlNrSyo@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191120162306.GM11621@lahna.fi.intel.com>

with the branch and patch applied:
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/karolherbst/03c4c8141b0fa292d781badfa186479e/raw/5c62640afbc57d6e69ea924c338bd2836e770d02/gistfile1.txt

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:23 PM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:53:07PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 04:37:14PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 01:11:52PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:09 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:58:00PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > > > > overall, what I really want to know is, _why_ does it work on windows?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So do I ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or what are we doing differently on Linux so that it doesn't work? If
> > > > > > > anybody has any idea on how we could dig into this and figure it out
> > > > > > > on this level, this would probably allow us to get closer to the root
> > > > > > > cause? no?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried to use the acpi_rev_override parameter in your system and
> > > > > > does it have any effect?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also did you try to trace the ACPI _ON/_OFF() methods? I think that
> > > > > > should hopefully reveal something.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I did in the past and it seemed to have worked, there is just
> > > > > one big issue with this: it's a Dell specific workaround afaik, and
> > > > > this issue plagues not just Dell, but we've seen it on HP and Lenovo
> > > > > laptops as well, and I've heard about users having the same issues on
> > > > > Asus and MSI laptops as well.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it is not a workaround at all but instead it simply determines
> > > > whether the system supports RTD3 or something like that (IIRC Windows 8
> > > > started supporting it). Maybe Dell added check for Linux because at that
> > > > time Linux did not support it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > the point is, it's not checking it by default, so by default you still
> > > run into the windows 8 codepath.
> >
> > Well you can add the quirk to acpi_rev_dmi_table[] so it goes to that
> > path by default. There are a bunch of similar entries for Dell machines.
> >
> > Of course this does not help the non-Dell users so we would still need
> > to figure out the root cause.
>
> I think I asked you to test the PCIe delay patch and it did not help but
> I wonder if it helps if we increase the delay. As an experiment could
> you try Bjorn's pci/pm branch. The last two commits are for the delay.
>
> If you could pull that branch and apply the following patch on top and
> give it a try? Then post the dmesg somewhere so we can see whether it
> did the delay at all.
>
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> index 1f319b1175da..1ad6f1372ed5 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> @@ -4697,12 +4697,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>                 return;
>         }
>
> -       /* Take d3cold_delay requirements into account */
> -       delay = pci_bus_max_d3cold_delay(dev->subordinate);
> -       if (!delay) {
> -               up_read(&pci_bus_sem);
> -               return;
> -       }
> +       delay = 500;
>
>         child = list_first_entry(&dev->subordinate->devices, struct pci_dev,
>                                  bus_list);
> @@ -4715,7 +4710,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>          * management for them (see pci_bridge_d3_possible()).
>          */
>         if (!pci_is_pcie(dev)) {
> -               pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for secondary bus\n", 1000 + delay);
> +               pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for secondary bus\n", 1000 + delay);
>                 msleep(1000 + delay);
>                 return;
>         }
> @@ -4741,10 +4736,10 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>                 return;
>
>         if (pcie_get_speed_cap(dev) <= PCIE_SPEED_5_0GT) {
> -               pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay);
> +               pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay);
>                 msleep(delay);
>         } else {
> -               pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n",
> +               pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n",
>                         delay);
>                 if (!pcie_wait_for_link_delay(dev, true, delay)) {
>                         /* Did not train, no need to wait any further */
> @@ -4753,7 +4748,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev)
>         }
>
>         if (!pci_device_is_present(child)) {
> -               pci_dbg(child, "waiting additional %d ms to become accessible\n", delay);
> +               pci_info(child, "waiting additional %d ms to become accessible\n", delay);
>                 msleep(delay);
>         }
>  }
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 12:19 [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17   ` Karol Herbst
     [not found] ` <20191017121901.13699-1-kherbst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-19 20:06   ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 20:06     ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 21:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 21:49   ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]   ` <20191119214955.GA223696-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-19 22:26     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:26       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:57       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 22:57         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-20 10:18       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 10:18         ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]         ` <20191120101816.GX11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 10:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 10:52             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:22             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:22               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:48               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:51                   ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                   ` <CACO55tsjj+xkDjubz1J=fsPecW4H_J8AaBTeaMm+NYjp8Kiq8g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 12:06                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:06                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                       ` <CAJZ5v0ithxMPK2YxfTUx_Ygpze2FMDJ6LwKwJb2vx89dfgHX_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 12:09                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:14                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:14                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:19                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:19                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:11                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:51                 ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                 ` <20191120115127.GD11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 11:54                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:54                     ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                     ` <CACO55tsfNOdtu5SZ-4HzO4Ji6gQtafvZ7Rm19nkPcJAgwUBFMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 11:58                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 12:09                           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                           ` <20191120120913.GE11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 12:11                             ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:15                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:15                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:37                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:53                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:53                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23                                       ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                       ` <20191120162306.GM11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-20 21:36                                         ` Karol Herbst [this message]
2019-11-20 21:36                                           ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 10:14                                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 10:14                                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:03                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <CAJZ5v0hAgz4Fu=83AJE2PYUsi+Jk=Lrr4MNp5ySA9yY=3wr5rg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 11:08                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:17                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:17                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:31                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:31                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:40                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 21:40                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 22:29                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 22:29                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:28                                           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                             ` <20191121112821.GU11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 11:34                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:34                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:46                                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:46                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:52                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:56                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 12:56                                                       ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                                                     ` <20191121125236.GX11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 15:43                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:43                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 19:49                                                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 19:49                                                           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                                                           ` <20191121194942.GY11621-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-21 22:39                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:39                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:50                                                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  0:13                                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  0:13                                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22  9:07                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22  9:07                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                     ` <CAJZ5v0jNq77xPXxeYeq_JJBCfekVPVPOye1mZwpQi=+=MKSS7w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 10:36                                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:30                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                   ` <CAJZ5v0gifnGZcKr6mgc6C2EfqX13OyJnOac0uDxYNKN=A0cgMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-11-22 11:34                                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:34                                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:54                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:54                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:52                                                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 12:15                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 12:52                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 12:52                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:47                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:47                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:06                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:06                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:39                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:39                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-26 23:10                                                           ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 11:48                                                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:48                                                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:51                                                               ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 11:51                                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 19:51                                                                 ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 19:51                                                                   ` Lyude Paul
2019-12-09 11:17                                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 11:38                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 12:24                                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-10 19:58                                                                       ` Dave Airlie
2019-12-10 20:49                                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31                                                                           ` Karol Herbst

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