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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Javier Domingo Cansino <javierdo1@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What is missing from Git v2.0
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:35:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140425133520.GC11124@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGK7Mr6dss7BF-srQ3SqeZe2hAe9nS07fGe--ka1rvC5hXvbSA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 09:48:53AM +0200, Philippe Vaucher wrote:
> 
> I agree. The "stage area" is a very important concept in git, why not
> talk git commands that refers to it? Then we could add flags like
> --new-files or --deleted-files for better granularity than the current
> --all flag.

One caution: The term "stage/staged" is already a little overloaded.
We generally use the word "staged" to refer to changes that are in the
index, but the term "stage" as a noun generally refers to referencing
the different versions of a file during a merge operation (cf "git
ls-files --stage").

> I think starting by documenting the issues is a good idea, maybe on a
> wiki, and start some draft of a proposed solution that would improve
> in an iterative process.

And it would be nice if the issues were discussed in a way that
acknowledged that all changes have tradeoffs, both positive and
negative, and to clearly articulate whether the concern is just
someone going "uh, 'index' is a wierd term", but once they learn it,
it's pretty clear, versus a case where there is continuous confusion
due to overloaded meanings, or for people for whom English might not
be the first language.

And most importantly, to avoid rheteroic.  In fact, given that strong
use of rhetoric is often used to disguise a weakness of a position
that can't be defended using logic and data, someone who tries to win
arguments using the "last post wins" style of discourse, and a heavy
use of rhetoric, may find that people just simply decide that it's a
better use of their time not to engage and to just kill the entire
thread.

Regards,

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-25 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-20 22:41 What is missing from Git v2.0 Felipe Contreras
2014-04-20 22:47 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:24 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-21 19:34   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:47     ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-21 20:45       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 20:46         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  7:23           ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-22  8:15             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22  7:19     ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-22  8:11       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 18:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22 19:23         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 20:22           ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-22 21:01             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 22:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22 21:30           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-22 21:59             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 22:24               ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24  3:35                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  5:18                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 13:39                   ` Andreas Krey
2014-04-24 18:31                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:16                       ` David Kastrup
2014-04-22 22:25             ` David Lang
2014-04-24  3:37               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  3:51                 ` David Lang
2014-04-24  3:58                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  4:16                 ` James Denholm
2014-04-24  4:12                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  6:06                     ` James Denholm
2014-04-24  7:19                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  7:39                         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24  8:23                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  9:01                             ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 18:28                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:20                                 ` David Lang
2014-04-24 13:41                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-24 15:00                               ` Stefan Beller
2014-04-24 15:47                                 ` tytso
2014-04-24 17:46                                   ` Stefan Beller
2014-04-24 18:02                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-24 18:26                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:15                                         ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 18:25                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 18:17                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  6:59                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-25  7:35                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-24 18:38                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:55                               ` luc.linux
2014-04-25  2:22                                 ` Javier Domingo Cansino
2014-04-25  2:35                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  7:48                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25  7:52                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 13:35                                       ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2014-04-25 14:23                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25 14:40                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-25 15:54                                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25 17:50                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 17:45                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 18:24                                           ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 18:27                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 18:57                                               ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 18:57                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 19:12                                                   ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 19:27                                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  5:13                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 15:41                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25 15:59                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 16:14                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-22 22:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24  3:26           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  2:12   ` brian m. carlson
2014-04-22  5:10     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  5:19 ` David Aguilar
2014-04-22  5:38   ` Felipe Contreras

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