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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Sebastian Schuberth <sschuberth@gmail.com>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What is missing from Git v2.0
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 00:10:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5355f9c16b665_15b012f3310d5@nysa.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140422021256.GC86681@vauxhall.crustytoothpaste.net>

brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 09:24:33PM +0200, Sebastian Schuberth wrote:
> > BTW, in my experience people tend to stick to predefined aliases instead of
> > redefining them to something (completely) different. This means that having
> > default aliases will very likely enable one to use the same short commands
> > on one's colleague's PC (instead of you running into issues because the same
> > alias was defined to a different command).
> > 
> > If we don't standardize this now people will come up with their own
> > definitions [1] [2] (and many others if you just search GitHub) which are
> > again likely to differ (slightly), hindering interoperability.
> 
> Unfortunately, that's already happened.  Some people alias ci to commit,
> and some people alias it to commit -a.  There is literally no choice you
> can make there that will make everyone happy.

Of course we can:
a) The people that have 'alias.co = git commit' will keep their alias
b) The people that have 'alias.co = git commit -a' will keep their alias
c) The people that haven't set alias.co, will get the default

> If you provide default aliases, people will expect them to work
> everywhere, and then be confused when they don't.

This argument was already brought up, and already proved to be false.

Mercurial allows not only to override the default alias, but to override the
core commands, so you can alias 'hg push' to 'hg push --force'. According to
your hypothesis people using Mercurial would get confused when basic commands
work on certain machines and not others. This is not the case. I challenge you
to find a single instance when people got confused because of the configured
aliases.

> It's much better to let people alias what they want on their own.  I
> understand the frustration of having to work on others' machines when they
> don't have your aliases, because every time I type "git pff"[0] and it fails,
> it drives me crazy, but there's just no sane defaults.

Yes there are sane defaults.

  co = checkout
  ci = commit
  rb = rebase
  st = status
  br = branch
  dt = difftool
  mt = mergetool

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22  5:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-20 22:41 What is missing from Git v2.0 Felipe Contreras
2014-04-20 22:47 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:24 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-21 19:34   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:47     ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-21 20:45       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-21 20:46         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  7:23           ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-22  8:15             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-21 19:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22  7:19     ` Sebastian Schuberth
2014-04-22  8:11       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 18:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22 19:23         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 20:22           ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-22 21:01             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 22:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-22 21:30           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-22 21:59             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22 22:24               ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24  3:35                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  5:18                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 13:39                   ` Andreas Krey
2014-04-24 18:31                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:16                       ` David Kastrup
2014-04-22 22:25             ` David Lang
2014-04-24  3:37               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  3:51                 ` David Lang
2014-04-24  3:58                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  4:16                 ` James Denholm
2014-04-24  4:12                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  6:06                     ` James Denholm
2014-04-24  7:19                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  7:39                         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24  8:23                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24  9:01                             ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 18:28                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:20                                 ` David Lang
2014-04-24 13:41                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-24 15:00                               ` Stefan Beller
2014-04-24 15:47                                 ` tytso
2014-04-24 17:46                                   ` Stefan Beller
2014-04-24 18:02                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-24 18:26                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:15                                         ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 18:25                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 18:17                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  6:59                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-25  7:35                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-24 18:38                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-24 19:55                               ` luc.linux
2014-04-25  2:22                                 ` Javier Domingo Cansino
2014-04-25  2:35                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  7:48                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25  7:52                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 13:35                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-25 14:23                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25 14:40                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-25 15:54                                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2014-04-25 17:50                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 17:45                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 18:24                                           ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 18:27                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 18:57                                               ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 18:57                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25 19:12                                                   ` Jeff King
2014-04-25 19:27                                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-25  5:13                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 15:41                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25 15:59                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 16:14                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-22 22:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24  3:26           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-22  2:12   ` brian m. carlson
2014-04-22  5:10     ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2014-04-22  5:19 ` David Aguilar
2014-04-22  5:38   ` Felipe Contreras

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