From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
git-packagers@googlegroups.com,
Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: enable DEVELOPER by default
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 18:40:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhxzsb2p.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqo9eirqwp.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>
On Sat, Aug 04 2018, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:11 AM Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My main concern is not about them but about other
>>> people building from source in order to run (instead of to develop)
>>> Git, and by extension, the people they go to for help when it doesn't
>>> work. I have lots of bitter experience of -Werror being a support
>>> headache and leading to bad workarounds when someone upgrades their
>>> compiler and the build starts failing due to a new warning it has
>>> introduced.
>>
>> Even old compilers can also throw some silly, false positive warnings
>> (which now turn into errors) because they are not as smart as new
>> ones.
>
> I agree with both of the above. I do not think the pros-and-cons
> are in favor of forcing the developer bit to everybody, even though
> I am sympathetic to the desire to see people throw fewer bad changes
> that waste review bandwidth by not compiling or passing its own
> tests at us.
I agree.
Responding to the thread in general, perhaps people would like this more
if we turned DEVELOPER=1 DEVOPTS=no-error on by default?
That's basically why I added it in 99f763baf5 ("Makefile: add a DEVOPTS
to suppress -Werror under DEVELOPER", 2018-04-14), because I wanted the
abilty to have verbose informative output without the build dying on
some older systems / compilers.
It's fine and understandable if you're someone who's just building a
package on some older system if you get a bunch of compiler warnings,
but more annoying if you have to dig into how to disable a default
-Werror.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-06 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-04 2:00 [PATCH] Makefile: enable DEVELOPER by default Stefan Beller
2018-08-04 2:02 ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-04 6:09 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-04 6:38 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-04 17:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-06 16:40 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-08-06 17:02 ` Jeff King
2018-08-06 17:04 ` Randall S. Becker
2018-08-06 17:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-06 18:59 ` Jeff King
2018-08-06 17:39 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-06 18:38 ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-06 17:02 ` Randall S. Becker
2018-08-06 17:41 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-06 19:20 ` Randall S. Becker
2018-09-01 21:01 ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-08-05 2:42 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-08-05 3:17 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-05 3:33 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-08-05 4:58 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-08-05 7:57 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-31 8:33 ` [PATCH] config.mak.uname: resolve FreeBSD iconv-related compilation warning Eric Sunshine
2018-08-31 11:54 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 18:31 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-08-31 17:00 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-31 20:59 ` Eric Sunshine
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