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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	<kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/18] perf: arm_spe: Handle guest/host exclusion flags
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 12:18:14 +0000
Message-ID: <0c806e4f5bb465f5b3fb54d167293706@www.loen.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191223121002.GB42593@e119886-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 2019-12-23 12:10, Andrew Murray wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 12:10:52PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:30:22 +0000,
>> Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > A side effect of supporting the SPE in guests is that we prevent 
>> the
>> > host from collecting data whilst inside a guest thus creating a 
>> black-out
>> > window. This occurs because instead of emulating the SPE, we share 
>> it
>> > with our guests.
>> >
>> > Let's accurately describe our capabilities by using the perf 
>> exclude
>> > flags to prevent !exclude_guest and exclude_host flags from being 
>> used.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com>
>> > ---
>> >  drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c | 3 +++
>> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c 
>> b/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c
>> > index 2d24af4cfcab..3703dbf459de 100644
>> > --- a/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c
>> > +++ b/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c
>> > @@ -679,6 +679,9 @@ static int arm_spe_pmu_event_init(struct 
>> perf_event *event)
>> >  	if (attr->exclude_idle)
>> >  		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> >
>> > +	if (!attr->exclude_guest || attr->exclude_host)
>> > +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> > +
>>
>> I have the opposite approach. If the host decides to profile the
>> guest, why should that be denied? If there is a black hole, it 
>> should
>> take place in the guest. Today, the host does expect this to work, 
>> and
>> there is no way that we unconditionally allow it to regress.
>
> That seems reasonable.
>
> Upon entering the guest we'd have to detect if the host is using SPE, 
> and if
> so choose not to restore the guest registers. Instead we'd have to 
> trap them
> and let the guest read/write emulated values until the host has 
> finished with
> SPE - at which time we could restore the guest SPE registers to 
> hardware.
>
> Does that approach make sense?

Yes, this would be much better. All of this can be found out at 
vcpu_load()
time, and once you've moved most of the SPE sysreg handling there, it 
will
just follow the normal scheduling flow.

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply index

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-20 14:30 [PATCH v2 00/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE profiling support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] dt-bindings: ARM SPE: highlight the need for PPI partitions on heterogeneous systems Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] arm64: KVM: reset E2PB correctly in MDCR_EL2 when exiting the guest(VHE) Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 10:29     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-02 16:21       ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] arm64: KVM: define SPE data structure for each vcpu Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:19   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:01     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE system registers to sys_reg_descs Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] arm64: KVM/VHE: enable the use PMSCR_EL12 on VHE systems Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] arm64: KVM: split debug save restore across vm/traps activation Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] arm64: KVM/debug: drop pmscr_el1 and use sys_regs[PMSCR_EL1] in kvm_cpu_context Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] arm64: KVM: add support to save/restore SPE profiling buffer controls Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 13:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 10:49     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 15:17       ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 15:48         ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] arm64: KVM: enable conditional save/restore full " Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:06   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-24 12:15     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 14:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07 15:13     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-08 11:17       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-08 11:58         ` Will Deacon
2020-01-08 12:36           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-08 13:10             ` Will Deacon
2020-01-09 11:23               ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 11:25                 ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 12:01                   ` Will Deacon
2020-01-10 10:54     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:04       ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:51         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 12:12           ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 11:18       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 12:12         ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-10 13:34           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] arm64: KVM/debug: use EL1&0 stage 1 translation regime Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 10:34   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 11:11     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-13 16:31     ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-15 14:03       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] KVM: arm64: don't trap Statistical Profiling controls to EL2 Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:08   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-22 10:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 11:56     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-23 12:05       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 12:10         ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 17:25           ` Andrew Murray
2020-01-09 17:42             ` Mark Rutland
2020-01-09 17:46               ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] KVM: arm64: add a new vcpu device control group for SPEv1 Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 11:03   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:30     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] perf: arm_spe: Add KVM structure for obtaining IRQ info Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 11:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:35     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] KVM: arm64: spe: Provide guest virtual interrupts for SPE Andrew Murray
2019-12-22 12:07   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 11:50     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 12:42       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 13:08         ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 13:22           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 13:36             ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-24 13:46               ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] perf: arm_spe: Handle guest/host exclusion flags Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 18:10   ` Mark Rutland
2019-12-22 12:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-23 12:10     ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-23 12:18       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] KVM: arm64: enable SPE support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 17/18, KVMTOOL] update_headers: Sync kvm UAPI headers with linux v5.5-rc2 Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 18/18, KVMTOOL] kvm: add a vcpu feature for SPEv1 support Andrew Murray
2019-12-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] arm64: KVM: add SPE profiling support Mark Rutland
2019-12-24 12:54   ` Andrew Murray
2019-12-21 10:48 ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-22 12:22   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-12-24 12:56     ` Andrew Murray

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