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From: "Patrick Mullaney" <pmullaney@novell.com>
To: <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: <anthony@codemonkey.ws>, <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	<herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Gregory Haskins" <GHaskins@novell.com>,
	"Peter Morreale" <PMorreale@novell.com>, <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	<agraf@suse.de>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:14:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D473EA020000C700056627@lucius.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D473EA020000C700056627@lucius.provo.novell.com>

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 16:27 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:

> 
> virtio is a stable ABI.
> 
> > However, theres still the possibility we can make this work in an ABI
> > friendly way with cap-bits, or other such features.  For instance, the
> > virtio-net driver could register both with pci and vbus-proxy and
> > instantiate a device with a slightly different ops structure for each or
> > something.  Alternatively we could write a host-side shim to expose vbus
> > devices as pci devices or something like that.
> >   
> 
> Sounds complicated...
> 

IMO, it doesn't sound anymore complicated than making virtio support the
concepts already provided by vbus/venet-tap driver. Isn't there already
precedent for alternative approaches co-existing and having the users
decide which is the most appropriate for their use case? Switching
drivers in order to improve latency for a certain class of applications
would seem like something latency sensitive users would be more than
willing to do. I'd like to point out 2 things. Greg has offered help
in moving virtio into the vbus infrastructure. The vbus infrastructure
is a large part of what is being proposed here.



       reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <49D469D2020000A100045FA1@lucius.provo.novell.com>
2009-04-02 14:14 ` Patrick Mullaney [this message]
2009-04-02 14:27   ` [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:31     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 15:49       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 16:06         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 16:51           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 17:44         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 11:43           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 14:58             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 15:37               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 18:19                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-05 10:50                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 17:09               ` Chris Wright
2009-04-03 18:32                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:42 Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:18 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 12:03   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 13:23     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 14:19       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 14:42         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 17:01         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 18:45           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-01 20:40             ` Chris Wright
2009-04-01 21:11               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 21:28                 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-01 22:10                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  6:00                     ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02  3:11               ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-01 21:09             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  0:29               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02  3:11                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  6:51               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  8:52                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:02                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:16                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:27                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:29                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:33                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:38                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:41                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:43                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:44                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 11:06                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:59                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:30                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:43                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:03                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:13                               ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-02 12:50                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:52                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:07                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:22                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:27                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:05                                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 14:50                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 15:00                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:40                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 15:57                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 16:09                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 16:54                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 17:06                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 17:17                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:25                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:10                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-03  4:43                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 10:55                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 10:58                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 11:03                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:12                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:46                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:48                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:54                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:55                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:02                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:05                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:18                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 11:34                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:46                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:28                       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 10:46                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:43                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:22                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:42                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:54                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:08                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:36                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:45                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:24                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 14:32                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:41                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:49                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 16:09                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 16:19                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 18:18                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-03  1:11                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:03                                           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 12:15                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:13                                               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 13:37                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 16:28                                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-05 10:00                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  3:09             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  6:46               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  8:54                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:03                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:05                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-01 20:29           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 22:23             ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 23:05               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01  6:08 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-01 11:35   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  1:24     ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-02  2:27       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 16:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-05  3:44     ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-05  8:06       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 14:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-05 16:10         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 16:45           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02  3:15   ` Herbert Xu

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