From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 04/15] KVM: Implement ring-based dirty memory tracking
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 14:51:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <efa1523f-2cff-8d65-7b43-4a19eff89051@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191204195230.GF19939@xz-x1>
On 2019/12/5 上午3:52, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 12:04:53PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 04/12/19 11:38, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> + entry = &ring->dirty_gfns[ring->dirty_index & (ring->size - 1)];
>>>> + entry->slot = slot;
>>>> + entry->offset = offset;
>>>
>>> Haven't gone through the whole series, sorry if it was a silly question
>>> but I wonder things like this will suffer from similar issue on
>>> virtually tagged archs as mentioned in [1].
>> There is no new infrastructure to track the dirty pages---it's just a
>> different way to pass them to userspace.
>>
>>> Is this better to allocate the ring from userspace and set to KVM
>>> instead? Then we can use copy_to/from_user() friends (a little bit slow
>>> on recent CPUs).
>> Yeah, I don't think that would be better than mmap.
> Yeah I agree, because I didn't see how copy_to/from_user() helped to
> do icache/dcache flushings...
It looks to me one advantage is that exact the same VA is used by both
userspace and kernel so there will be no alias.
Thanks
>
> Some context here: Jason raised this question offlist first on whether
> we should also need these flush_dcache_cache() helpers for operations
> like kvm dirty ring accesses. I feel like it should, however I've got
> two other questions, on:
>
> - if we need to do flush_dcache_page() on kernel modified pages
> (assuming the same page has mapped to userspace), then why don't
> we need flush_cache_page() too on the page, where
> flush_cache_page() is defined not-a-nop on those archs?
>
> - assuming an arch has not-a-nop impl for flush_[d]cache_page(),
> would atomic operations like cmpxchg really work for them
> (assuming that ISAs like cmpxchg should depend on cache
> consistency).
>
> Sorry I think these are for sure a bit out of topic for kvm dirty ring
> patchset, but since we're at it, I'm raising the questions up in case
> there're answers..
>
> Thanks,
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-05 6:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-29 21:34 [PATCH RFC 00/15] KVM: Dirty ring interface Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] KVM: Move running VCPU from ARM to common code Peter Xu
2019-12-03 19:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-04 9:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-09 22:05 ` Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] KVM: Add kvm/vcpu argument to mark_dirty_page_in_slot Peter Xu
2019-12-02 19:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-02 20:49 ` Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] KVM: Add build-time error check on kvm_run size Peter Xu
2019-12-02 19:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-02 20:53 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-02 22:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-02 22:40 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-03 5:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-03 13:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-03 17:04 ` Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] KVM: Implement ring-based dirty memory tracking Peter Xu
2019-12-02 20:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-02 21:16 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-02 21:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-02 23:09 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-03 13:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-03 18:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-04 10:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-07 0:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-09 9:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-09 21:54 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-10 10:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-10 15:52 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-10 17:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-15 17:21 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-16 10:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-16 18:54 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-17 9:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-17 16:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-18 21:58 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-18 22:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-18 22:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-18 22:49 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-17 2:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-12-17 16:18 ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-17 16:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-18 0:29 ` Tian, Kevin
[not found] ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19D645E5F@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2019-12-17 5:17 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-12-17 5:25 ` Yan Zhao
2019-12-17 16:24 ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-03 19:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-04 10:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-04 14:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-04 10:38 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-04 11:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-04 19:52 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-05 6:51 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2019-12-05 12:08 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-05 13:12 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-10 13:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-10 13:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-10 16:02 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-10 21:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-11 9:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-11 13:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-11 14:54 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-10 21:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-11 12:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-11 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-11 20:59 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-11 22:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-12 0:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-12 7:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-12 8:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-12 10:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-15 17:33 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-16 9:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-16 15:07 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-16 15:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-16 15:47 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-11 17:24 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-12-13 20:23 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-14 7:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-14 16:26 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-16 9:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-16 15:26 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-16 15:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-16 15:43 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-17 12:16 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-12-17 12:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 15:38 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-17 16:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 16:42 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-17 16:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 19:41 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-18 0:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-18 16:32 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-18 16:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-20 18:19 ` Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] KVM: Make dirty ring exclusive to dirty bitmap log Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] KVM: Introduce dirty ring wait queue Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] KVM: X86: Implement ring-based dirty memory tracking Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] KVM: selftests: Always clear dirty bitmap after iteration Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:34 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] KVM: selftests: Sync uapi/linux/kvm.h to tools/ Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:35 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] KVM: selftests: Use a single binary for dirty/clear log test Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:35 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] KVM: selftests: Introduce after_vcpu_run hook for dirty " Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:35 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] KVM: selftests: Add dirty ring buffer test Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:35 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] KVM: selftests: Let dirty_log_test async for dirty ring test Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:35 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] KVM: selftests: Add "-c" parameter to dirty log test Peter Xu
2019-11-29 21:35 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] KVM: selftests: Test dirty ring waitqueue Peter Xu
2019-11-30 8:29 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] KVM: Dirty ring interface Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-02 2:13 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-03 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-05 19:30 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-05 19:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-05 20:52 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-02 20:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-12-02 20:43 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-04 10:39 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-04 19:33 ` Peter Xu
2019-12-05 6:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-11 13:41 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-12-11 14:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-11 17:15 ` Peter Xu
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