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From: hanjun.guo@linaro.org (Hanjun Guo)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 19/19] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:21:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EC2B35.5010302@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2152407.NpXOMHAEH6@vostro.rjw.lan>

On 2014-8-14 7:41, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 07:23:47 PM Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 07:27:52PM +0100, Olof Johansson wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 05:27:50PM +0100, Olof Johansson wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:07:50AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday 26 July 2014 19:34:48 Olof Johansson wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> +Relationship with Device Tree
>>>>>>>> +-----------------------------
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +ACPI support in drivers and subsystems for ARMv8 should never be mutually
>>>>>>>> +exclusive with DT support at compile time.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +At boot time the kernel will only use one description method depending on
>>>>>>>> +parameters passed from the bootloader.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly overriden by kernel bootargs. And as debated for quite a
>>>>>>> while earlier this year, acpi should still default to off -- if a DT
>>>>>>> and ACPI are both passed in, DT should at this time be given priority.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this would be harder to do with the way that ACPI is passed in
>>>>>> to the kernel. IIRC, you always have a minimal DT information based on
>>>>>> the ARM64 boot protocol, but in the case of ACPI, this contains pointers
>>>>>> to the ACPI tables, which are then used for populating the Linux platform
>>>>>> devices (unless acpi=disabled is set), while the other contents of the
>>>>>> DTB may be present but we skip the of_platform_populate state.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can it be harder to do? If you support acpi=off, then you should support
>>>>> acpi=on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another alternative would be to have an early fixup that stubs out
>>>>> the acpi properties from the DTB unless there's an 'acpi' or 'acpi=on'
>>>>> argument on the cmdline. Not quite as tidy a solution, though.
>>>>
>>>> I don't follow:
>>>>
>>>> If you want to disable ACPI, you can pass acpi=off. This is your
>>>> workaround for broken ACPI (and only if you happen to have wrirten your
>>>> own DTB, because many/most ACPI systems WILL NOT have a DTB to begin
>>>> with).
>>>
>>> All ACPI should be assumed broken at this time, so acpi=off _must_ be
>>> the default.
>>
>> (catching up with emails after holiday and I may have missed some of
>> your arguments)
>>
>> If we consider ACPI unusable on ARM but we still want to start merging
>> patches, we should rather make the config option depend on BROKEN
>> (though if it is that unusable that no real platform can use it, I would
>> rather not merge it at all at this stage).
> 
> I agree here.
> 
> I would recommend creating a separate branch for that living outside of the
> mainline kernel and merging it when there are real users.

Real users will coming soon, we already tested this patch set on real hardware
(ARM64 Juno platform), and I think ARM64 server chips and platforms will show
up before 3.18 is released.

For this patch set, DT is the first class citizen at now:

a) We can always set CONFIG_ACPI as off in Kconfig, and use DT only;

b) Even if we set CONFIG_ACPI=Y, we also can use DT as normal:

  - Pass DT blob without (valid) ACPI tables (just as we boot the kernel now),
    ACPI will disabled in the very early stage and FDT will still to be
    unflattened, so will not break DT booting.

  - We can pass ACPI=off to disable ACPI and use DT even if we got valid
    ACPI tables (in the v1 patch set);

So it is safe for people who want to use DT, and didn't change any behavior
of DT booting except some extra test of if(acpi_disabled).

Thanks
Hanjun

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-14  3:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-24 13:00 [PATCH 00/19] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 01/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Get RSDP and ACPI boot-time tables Hanjun Guo
2014-07-28 18:29   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-28 22:49     ` Graeme Gregory
2014-07-29  8:49       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-29 13:08     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-29 13:50       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-29 14:07         ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-28 18:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 02/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" Hanjun Guo
2014-07-28 18:35   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-29 13:10     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 03/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce lowlevel suspend function Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 15:34   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-25 10:42     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-28 18:28   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-29 13:00     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 04/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce arch_fix_phys_package_id() for cpu topology Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 14:43   ` Mark Brown
2014-07-25 10:32     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-28 18:51   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-01  6:35     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-08-01 10:48       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 05/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 21:57   ` Naresh Bhat
2014-07-29 16:40   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 06/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse FADT table to get PSCI flags for PSCI init Hanjun Guo
2014-07-29 16:40   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-31  3:53     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-31  4:22   ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-31 10:23     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-08-20 15:02       ` Grant Likely
2014-08-20 15:00   ` Grant Likely
2014-08-20 15:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-20 15:43       ` graeme.gregory at linaro.org
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 07/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse MADT to map logical cpu to MPIDR and get cpu_possible/present_map Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 23:06   ` Naresh Bhat
2014-07-25 11:11     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-30 18:20   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-31  8:14     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-08-20 15:14   ` Grant Likely
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 08/19] ACPI / table: Print GIC information when MADT is parsed Hanjun Guo
2014-07-30 18:21   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-31  8:15     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 09/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Move the initialization of cpu_logical_map(0) before acpi_boot_init() Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 15:21   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-25 10:39     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-25 12:18       ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 10/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Get the enable method for SMP initialization in ACPI way Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 15:47   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-25 10:51     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-25 12:24       ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-29  8:12         ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-31  6:54   ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-31 10:57     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-08-04  9:56       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-31 18:52   ` Geoff Levand
2014-08-01  6:49     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 11/19] ACPI / processor: Make it possible to get CPU hardware ID via GICC Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 12/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC and register device's gsi Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 13/19] ACPI / table: Add new function to get table entries Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 14/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Add GICv2 specific ACPI boot support Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 15/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse GTDT to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 16/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 17/19] ARM64 / ACPI: If we chose to boot from acpi then disable FDT Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 18/19] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 13:00 ` [PATCH 19/19] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-07-24 20:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2014-07-25 10:55     ` Hanjun Guo
     [not found]   ` <CAFoFrHaWWxRPRYM5+bWj0tGnz05SokqwVGejUCUi+U-KChFBdQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-24 21:19     ` Randy Dunlap
2014-07-29 10:07       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-27  2:34   ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-28  8:42     ` Graeme Gregory
2014-07-28 16:23       ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-28 17:44         ` Mark Brown
2014-07-28  9:07     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-28  9:23       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-07-28 10:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-28 14:20           ` Andre Przywara
2014-07-28 15:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-28 16:14               ` Andre Przywara
2014-07-29  9:17                 ` Graeme Gregory
2014-07-29 10:07                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-28 10:12       ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-28 16:33         ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-28 18:37           ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-28 18:44             ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-28 16:27       ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-28 17:00         ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-28 18:27           ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-12 18:23             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-13 23:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-08-14  3:21                 ` Hanjun Guo [this message]
2014-08-14 10:27                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-14 20:53                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-15  1:02                       ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-15 19:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-15 23:19                           ` Mark Brown
2014-08-16 12:51                           ` graeme.gregory at linaro.org
2014-08-15  9:09                     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-08-15 10:01                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-18  9:29                         ` Hanjun Guo
2014-08-18 12:49                           ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-20 22:17                           ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-21  4:00                             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-29  9:01       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-28 10:06     ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-28 16:44       ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-28 17:36         ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-28 18:34           ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-29 10:29         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-29 10:41           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-29 10:55           ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-29 11:28             ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-29 12:37               ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-29 12:52                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-29 13:08                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-29 13:31                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-29 14:04                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-29 14:41                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-29 15:01                         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-30  6:47                       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-30  7:14                         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-30  9:36                           ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-29 13:33                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-07-29  7:58     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-07-29 10:30   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-08-15 22:43   ` Len Brown
2014-08-16 12:45     ` Graeme Gregory
2014-08-20 16:42   ` Grant Likely
2014-07-25  0:46 ` [PATCH 00/19] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo

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