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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: CAI Qian <caiqian@redhat.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	tj <tj@kernel.org>, linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 20:57:49 +1100
Message-ID: <20161007095749.GI9806@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFz28kQUAYoSFzvEpq5MkYHNcKx2KWP-kpruuyWe7AEY2Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:00:08AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:11 AM, CAI Qian <caiqian@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Wait. There is also a lockep happened before the xfs internal error as well.
> > Some other lockdep this time,
> 
> This one looks just bogus.
> 
> > [ 4872.569797]  Possible unsafe locking scenario:
> > [ 4872.569797]
> > [ 4872.576401]        CPU0
> > [ 4872.579127]        ----
> > [ 4872.581854]   lock(&xfs_nondir_ilock_class);
> > [ 4872.586637]   <Interrupt>
> > [ 4872.589558]     lock(&xfs_nondir_ilock_class);
> 
> I'm not seeing that .lock taken in interrupt context.

It's a memory allocation vs reclaim context warning, not a lock
warning. That overloads the lock vs interrupt lockdep mechanism, so
if lockdep sees a context violation it is reported as an "interrupt
context" lock problem.

The allocation context in question is in a function that can be
called from both inside and outside a transaction context. When
outside a transaction, it's a GFP_KERNEL allocation, when inside
it's a GFP_NOFS context.  However, both allocation contexts hold the
inode ilock over the allocation.

the inode shrinker (reclaim context) also happens to take the inode
ilock, and that's what lockdep is complaining about. i.e. it thinks
that this path ilock -> alloc(GFP_KERNEL) -> reclaim -> ilock can
deadlock. But it can't - the ilock held at the upper side is a
referenced inode and can't be seen by reclaim, and the ilocks taken
by reclaim are inodes that can't be seen or referenced by the VFS.

i.e. There's no depedencies between the ilocks on either side of
memory allocation, but there's no way of telling lockdep that short
of giving the inodes in reclaim a different lock class. We used to
do that, but that was a nasty hack and prevented lockdep from
verifying locking orders used on inodes and objects in reclaim
matched the locking orders of referenced inodes...

We've historically shut these false positives up by simply making
all the allocations in these dual context paths GFP_NOFS. However, I
recently got told not to do that by someone on the mm side because
it exacerbated deficiencies in memory reclaim when too many
allocations use GFP_NOFS.

So it's not "fixed" and instead I'm ignoring it.  If you spend any
amount of time running lockdep on XFS you'll get as sick and tired
of playing this whack-a-lockdep-false-positive game as I am.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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2016-09-18  5:33                   ` xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected Al Viro
2016-09-19  3:08                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-19  6:11                       ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  7:26                         ` Nicholas Piggin
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     [not found]                   ` <20160914042559.GC2356@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                     ` <20160917082007.GA6489@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                       ` <20160917190023.GA8039@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
2016-09-18 19:31                         ` skb_splice_bits() and large chunks in pipe (was " Al Viro
2016-09-18 20:12                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-18 22:31                             ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  0:18                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-23 19:00                         ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:01                           ` [PATCH 01/11] fix memory leaks in tracing_buffers_splice_read() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:02                           ` [PATCH 02/11] splice_to_pipe(): don't open-code wakeup_pipe_readers() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:02                           ` [PATCH 03/11] splice: switch get_iovec_page_array() to iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:03                           ` [PATCH 04/11] splice: lift pipe_lock out of splice_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:45                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-23 20:10                               ` Al Viro
2016-09-23 20:36                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-24  3:59                                   ` Al Viro
2016-09-24 17:29                                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-27 15:38                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-27 15:53                                       ` Chuck Lever
2016-09-24  3:59                                   ` [PATCH 04/12] " Al Viro
2016-09-26 13:35                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-27  4:14                                       ` Al Viro
2016-12-17 19:54                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-18 19:28                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 19:57                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-18 20:12                                         ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 20:30                                           ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 22:10                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 22:18                                               ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 22:22                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 22:49                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-21 18:56                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-21 19:12                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-24  4:00                                   ` [PATCH 06/12] new helper: add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-26 13:49                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-24  4:01                                   ` [PATCH 10/12] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed Al Viro
2016-09-29 20:53                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-29 22:50                                       ` Al Viro
2016-09-30  7:30                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-10-03  3:34                                           ` [RFC] O_DIRECT vs EFAULT (was Re: [PATCH 10/12] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed) Al Viro
2016-10-03 17:07                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-03 18:54                                               ` Al Viro
2016-09-24  4:01                                   ` [PATCH 11/12] switch generic_file_splice_read() to use of ->read_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-24  4:02                                   ` [PATCH 12/12] switch default_file_splice_read() to use of pipe-backed iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:03                           ` [PATCH 05/11] skb_splice_bits(): get rid of callback Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:04                           ` [PATCH 06/11] new helper: add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:04                           ` [PATCH 07/11] fuse_dev_splice_read(): switch to add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:06                           ` [PATCH 08/11] cifs: don't use memcpy() to copy struct iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:08                           ` [PATCH 09/11] fuse_ioctl_copy_user(): don't open-code copy_page_{to,from}_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-26  9:31                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-23 19:09                           ` [PATCH 10/11] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:10                           ` [PATCH 11/11] switch generic_file_splice_read() to use of ->read_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-30 13:32                           ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked CAI Qian
2016-09-30 17:42                             ` CAI Qian
2016-09-30 18:33                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03  1:37                                 ` Al Viro
2016-10-03 17:49                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 17:39                                     ` local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked) CAI Qian
2016-10-04 21:42                                       ` tj
2016-10-05 14:09                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 15:30                                           ` tj
2016-10-05 15:54                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 18:57                                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 20:05                                                 ` Al Viro
2016-10-06 12:20                                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 12:25                                                     ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 16:11                                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 17:00                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-06 18:12                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07  9:57                                                           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2016-10-07 15:25                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07  7:08                                                       ` Jan Kara
2016-10-07 14:43                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07 15:27                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07 18:56                                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-09 21:54                                                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-10 14:10                                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-10 20:14                                                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-10 21:57                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-12 19:50                                                                     ` [bisected] " CAI Qian
2016-10-12 20:59                                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-13 16:25                                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-13 20:49                                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-13 20:56                                                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-09 21:51                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-21 15:38                                                         ` [4.9-rc1+] overlayfs lockdep CAI Qian
2016-10-24 12:57                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-10-07  9:27                                                     ` local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked) Dave Chinner
2016-10-03  1:42                               ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked Al Viro
2016-10-03 14:06                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 15:20                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 21:12                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-04 13:57                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 20:32                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 20:35                                     ` Al Viro
2016-10-04 13:29                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 14:28                                         ` Al Viro
2016-10-04 16:21                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 20:12                                             ` Al Viro
2016-10-05 14:30                                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 16:07                                                 ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  0:22 skb_splice_bits() and large chunks in pipe (was Re: xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected Al Viro
2016-09-20  9:51 ` Herbert Xu

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