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* [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] i2c: Allow an ACPI driver to manage the device's power state during probe Sakari Ailus
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From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media


Hi all,

These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.

An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).


The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.

This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
actually captured.

I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.

since v7 <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20200901210333.8462-1-sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com/>:

- Reorder documentation patch right after the implemenation in the I²C
  framework.

- Rename allow-low-power-probe property as i2c-allow-low-power-probe.

- Remove extra "property" from the description of the
  i2c-allow-low-power-probe property and mention it's a device property.

- Add an example to the documentation and refer to the _DSD property spec.

since v6 <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20200826115432.6103-1-sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com/>:

- Use u32 for the flags field in struct i2c_driver.

- Use acpi_dev_get_property to read the allow-low-power-probe property.

since v5 <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20200810142747.12400-1-sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com/>:

- Identify sensors when they're first powered on. In previous versions, if
  this wasn't in probe, it was not done at all.

- Return allow_low_power_probe() only for ACPI devices, i.e. OF systems
  are not affected by these changes.

- Document that I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE flag only applies to ACPI
  drivers.

- Fix extra regulator_disable in at24 driver's remove function when the
  device was already in low power state.

since v4 <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20200121134157.20396-1-sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com/>:

- Rename "probe-low-power" property as "allow-low-power-probe". This is
  taken into account in function and file naming, too.

- Turn probe_low_power field in struct i2c_driver into flags field.

- Rebase on Wolfram's i2c/for-next branch that contains the removal of the
  support for disabling I²C core IRQ mappings (commit
  0c2a34937f7e4c4776bb261114c475392da2355c).

- Change wording for "allow-low-power-probe" property in ACPI
  documentation.

since v3 <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20200109154529.19484-1-sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com/T/#t>:

- Rework the 2nd patch based on Rafael's comments

	- Rework description of the ACPI low power state helper function,
	  according to Rafael's text.

	- Rename and rework the same function as
	  acpi_dev_state_low_power().

	- Reflect the changes in commit message as well.

- Added a patch to document the probe-low-power _DSD property.

since v2 <URL:https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/11114255/>:

- Remove extra CONFIG_PM ifdefs; these are not needed.

- Move the checks for power state hints from drivers/base/dd.c to
  drivers/i2c/i2c-base-core.c; these are I²C devices anyway.

- Move the probe_low_power field from struct device_driver to struct
  i2c_driver.

since v1:

- Rename probe_powered_off struct device field as probe_low_power and
  reflect the similar naming to the patches overall.

- Work with CONFIG_PM disabled, too.

Rajmohan Mani (1):
  media: i2c: imx319: Support probe while the device is off

Sakari Ailus (5):
  i2c: Allow an ACPI driver to manage the device's power state during
    probe
  ACPI: Add a convenience function to tell a device is in low power
    state
  ov5670: Support probe whilst the device is in a low power state
  at24: Support probing while off
  Documentation: ACPI: Document allow-low-power-probe _DSD property

 .../acpi/dsd/allow-low-power-probe.rst        | 28 +++++++
 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst   |  1 +
 drivers/acpi/device_pm.c                      | 31 ++++++++
 drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c                   | 19 ++++-
 drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c                    | 74 +++++++++++-------
 drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c                    | 76 +++++++++++--------
 drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c                    | 43 ++++++-----
 include/linux/acpi.h                          |  5 ++
 include/linux/i2c.h                           | 14 ++++
 9 files changed, 212 insertions(+), 79 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/dsd/allow-low-power-probe.rst

-- 
2.20.1


Rajmohan Mani (1):
  media: i2c: imx319: Support probe while the device is off

Sakari Ailus (5):
  i2c: Allow an ACPI driver to manage the device's power state during
    probe
  Documentation: ACPI: Document i2c-allow-low-power-probe _DSD property
  ACPI: Add a convenience function to tell a device is in low power
    state
  ov5670: Support probe whilst the device is in a low power state
  at24: Support probing while off

 .../acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst    | 60 +++++++++++++++
 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst   |  1 +
 drivers/acpi/device_pm.c                      | 31 ++++++++
 drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c                   | 19 ++++-
 drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c                    | 74 +++++++++++-------
 drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c                    | 76 +++++++++++--------
 drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c                    | 43 ++++++-----
 include/linux/acpi.h                          |  5 ++
 include/linux/i2c.h                           | 14 ++++
 9 files changed, 244 insertions(+), 79 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst

-- 
2.20.1


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* [PATCH v8 1/6] i2c: Allow an ACPI driver to manage the device's power state during probe
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] Documentation: ACPI: Document i2c-allow-low-power-probe _DSD property Sakari Ailus
                   ` (6 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Enable drivers to tell ACPI that there's no need to power on a device for
probe. Drivers should still perform this by themselves if there's a need
to. In some cases powering on the device during probe is undesirable, and
this change enables a driver to choose what fits best for it.

Add a field called "flags" into struct i2c_driver for driver flags, and a
flag I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE to tell a driver supports probe in
low power state.

Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
---
 drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c | 19 ++++++++++++++++---
 include/linux/i2c.h         | 14 ++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c b/drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c
index 5ec082e2039d9..cfb1e777c6196 100644
--- a/drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c
+++ b/drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c
@@ -436,6 +436,16 @@ static int i2c_smbus_host_notify_to_irq(const struct i2c_client *client)
 	return irq > 0 ? irq : -ENXIO;
 }
 
+static bool allow_low_power_probe(struct device *dev)
+{
+	struct i2c_driver *driver = to_i2c_driver(dev->driver);
+
+	return driver->flags & I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE &&
+		!acpi_dev_get_property(ACPI_COMPANION(dev),
+				       "i2c-allow-low-power-probe",
+				       ACPI_TYPE_ANY, NULL);
+}
+
 static int i2c_device_probe(struct device *dev)
 {
 	struct i2c_client	*client = i2c_verify_client(dev);
@@ -514,7 +524,8 @@ static int i2c_device_probe(struct device *dev)
 	if (status < 0)
 		goto err_clear_wakeup_irq;
 
-	status = dev_pm_domain_attach(&client->dev, true);
+	status = dev_pm_domain_attach(&client->dev,
+				      !allow_low_power_probe(&client->dev));
 	if (status)
 		goto err_clear_wakeup_irq;
 
@@ -536,7 +547,8 @@ static int i2c_device_probe(struct device *dev)
 	return 0;
 
 err_detach_pm_domain:
-	dev_pm_domain_detach(&client->dev, true);
+	dev_pm_domain_detach(&client->dev,
+			     !allow_low_power_probe(&client->dev));
 err_clear_wakeup_irq:
 	dev_pm_clear_wake_irq(&client->dev);
 	device_init_wakeup(&client->dev, false);
@@ -562,7 +574,8 @@ static int i2c_device_remove(struct device *dev)
 		status = driver->remove(client);
 	}
 
-	dev_pm_domain_detach(&client->dev, true);
+	dev_pm_domain_detach(&client->dev,
+			     !allow_low_power_probe(&client->dev));
 
 	dev_pm_clear_wake_irq(&client->dev);
 	device_init_wakeup(&client->dev, false);
diff --git a/include/linux/i2c.h b/include/linux/i2c.h
index fc55ea41d3237..f8c3257a8bb25 100644
--- a/include/linux/i2c.h
+++ b/include/linux/i2c.h
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
 #define _LINUX_I2C_H
 
 #include <linux/acpi.h>		/* for acpi_handle */
+#include <linux/bits.h>
 #include <linux/mod_devicetable.h>
 #include <linux/device.h>	/* for struct device */
 #include <linux/sched.h>	/* for completion */
@@ -217,6 +218,16 @@ enum i2c_alert_protocol {
 	I2C_PROTOCOL_SMBUS_HOST_NOTIFY,
 };
 
+/**
+ * enum i2c_driver_flags - Flags for an I2C device driver
+ *
+ * @I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE: Let the ACPI driver manage the device's
+ *				      power state during probe and remove
+ */
+enum i2c_driver_flags {
+	I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE = BIT(0),
+};
+
 /**
  * struct i2c_driver - represent an I2C device driver
  * @class: What kind of i2c device we instantiate (for detect)
@@ -231,6 +242,7 @@ enum i2c_alert_protocol {
  * @detect: Callback for device detection
  * @address_list: The I2C addresses to probe (for detect)
  * @clients: List of detected clients we created (for i2c-core use only)
+ * @flags: A bitmask of flags defined in &enum i2c_driver_flags
  *
  * The driver.owner field should be set to the module owner of this driver.
  * The driver.name field should be set to the name of this driver.
@@ -289,6 +301,8 @@ struct i2c_driver {
 	int (*detect)(struct i2c_client *client, struct i2c_board_info *info);
 	const unsigned short *address_list;
 	struct list_head clients;
+
+	u32 flags;
 };
 #define to_i2c_driver(d) container_of(d, struct i2c_driver, driver)
 
-- 
2.20.1


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* [PATCH v8 2/6] Documentation: ACPI: Document i2c-allow-low-power-probe _DSD property
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] i2c: Allow an ACPI driver to manage the device's power state during probe Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] ACPI: Add a convenience function to tell a device is in low power state Sakari Ailus
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Document the probe-low-power _DSD property and how it is used with I²C
drivers.

Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
---
 .../acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst    | 60 +++++++++++++++++++
 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst   |  1 +
 2 files changed, 61 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst

diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000000..7e7ed3ad3ac69
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,60 @@
+.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
+
+======================================
+Probing I²C devices in low power state
+======================================
+
+Introduction
+============
+
+In some cases it may be preferred to leave certain devices powered off for the
+entire system bootup if powering on these devices has adverse side effects,
+beyond just powering on the said device. Linux recognizes the _DSD property [1]
+"i2c-allow-low-power-probe" that can be used for this purpose.
+
+How it works
+============
+
+The boolean device property "i2c-allow-low-power-probe" may be used to tell
+Linux that the I²C framework should instruct the kernel ACPI framework to leave
+the device in the low power state. If the driver indicates its support for this
+by setting the I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE flag in struct i2c_driver.flags
+field and the "i2c-allow-low-power-probe" property is present, the device will
+not be powered on for probe.
+
+The downside is that as the device is not powered on, even if there's a problem
+with the device, the driver likely probes just fine but the first user will
+find out the device doesn't work, instead of a failure at probe time. This
+feature should thus be used sparingly.
+
+Example
+=======
+
+An ASL example describing an ACPI device using this property looks like
+this. Some objects not relevant from the example point of view have been
+omitted.
+
+	Device (CAM0)
+        {
+		Name (_HID, "SONY319A")
+		Name (_UID, Zero)
+		Name (_CRS, ResourceTemplate ()
+		{
+			I2cSerialBus(0x0020, ControllerInitiated, 0x00061A80,
+				     AddressingMode7Bit, "\\_SB.PCI0.I2C0",
+				     0x00, ResourceConsumer)
+		})
+		Name (PRT4, Package() {
+			ToUUID("daffd814-6eba-4d8c-8a91-bc9bbf4aa301"),
+			Package () {
+				Package () { "i2c-allow-low-power-probe", 1 },
+			}
+                })
+	}
+
+References
+==========
+
+[1] Device Properties UUID For _DSD.
+    https://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf,
+    referenced 2020-09-02.
diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst
index ad3b5afdae77e..1f87b7072d1e6 100644
--- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst
+++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/index.rst
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ ACPI Support
    dsd/graph
    dsd/data-node-references
    dsd/leds
+   dsd/i2c-allow-low-power-probe
    enumeration
    osi
    method-customizing
-- 
2.20.1


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* [PATCH v8 3/6] ACPI: Add a convenience function to tell a device is in low power state
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] i2c: Allow an ACPI driver to manage the device's power state during probe Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] Documentation: ACPI: Document i2c-allow-low-power-probe _DSD property Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 ` Sakari Ailus
       [not found]   ` <0c2d4728-6e32-ef93-8961-381fe36cfdaa@linux.intel.com>
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] ov5670: Support probe whilst the device is in a " Sakari Ailus
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Add a convenience function to tell whether a device is in low power state,
primarily for use in drivers' probe or remove functions on busses where
the custom is to power on the device for the duration of both.

Returns false on non-ACPI systems.

Suggested-by: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
Reviewed-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
---
 drivers/acpi/device_pm.c | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 include/linux/acpi.h     |  5 +++++
 2 files changed, 36 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/acpi/device_pm.c b/drivers/acpi/device_pm.c
index 94d91c67aeaeb..e3c488d4af0d4 100644
--- a/drivers/acpi/device_pm.c
+++ b/drivers/acpi/device_pm.c
@@ -1344,4 +1344,35 @@ int acpi_dev_pm_attach(struct device *dev, bool power_on)
 	return 1;
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(acpi_dev_pm_attach);
+
+/**
+ * acpi_dev_state_low_power - Check the current ACPI power state of a device.
+ * @dev: Physical device the ACPI power state of which to check
+ *
+ * On a system without ACPI, return false. On a system with ACPI, return true if
+ * the current ACPI power state of the device is not D0, or false otherwise.
+ *
+ * Note that the power state of a device is not well-defined after it has been
+ * passed to acpi_device_set_power() and before that function returns, so it is
+ * not valid to ask for the ACPI power state of the device in that time frame.
+ */
+bool acpi_dev_state_low_power(struct device *dev)
+{
+	struct acpi_device *adev = ACPI_COMPANION(dev);
+	int power_state;
+	int ret;
+
+	if (!adev)
+		return false;
+
+	ret = acpi_device_get_power(adev, &power_state);
+	if (ret) {
+		dev_dbg(dev, "Cannot obtain power state (%d)\n", ret);
+		return false;
+	}
+
+	return power_state != ACPI_STATE_D0;
+}
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(acpi_dev_state_low_power);
+
 #endif /* CONFIG_PM */
diff --git a/include/linux/acpi.h b/include/linux/acpi.h
index 17e80e182802e..d76d851259a49 100644
--- a/include/linux/acpi.h
+++ b/include/linux/acpi.h
@@ -978,6 +978,7 @@ int acpi_dev_resume(struct device *dev);
 int acpi_subsys_runtime_suspend(struct device *dev);
 int acpi_subsys_runtime_resume(struct device *dev);
 int acpi_dev_pm_attach(struct device *dev, bool power_on);
+bool acpi_dev_state_low_power(struct device *dev);
 #else
 static inline int acpi_dev_runtime_suspend(struct device *dev) { return 0; }
 static inline int acpi_dev_runtime_resume(struct device *dev) { return 0; }
@@ -987,6 +988,10 @@ static inline int acpi_dev_pm_attach(struct device *dev, bool power_on)
 {
 	return 0;
 }
+static inline bool acpi_dev_state_low_power(struct device *dev)
+{
+	return false;
+}
 #endif
 
 #if defined(CONFIG_ACPI) && defined(CONFIG_PM_SLEEP)
-- 
2.20.1


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* [PATCH v8 4/6] ov5670: Support probe whilst the device is in a low power state
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] ACPI: Add a convenience function to tell a device is in low power state Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] media: i2c: imx319: Support probe while the device is off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Tell ACPI device PM code that the driver supports the device being in a
low power state when the driver's probe function is entered.

Also do identification on the first access of the device, whether in probe
or when starting streaming.

Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
---
 drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
 1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c b/drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c
index f26252e35e08d..74b0325c22565 100644
--- a/drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c
+++ b/drivers/media/i2c/ov5670.c
@@ -1832,6 +1832,8 @@ struct ov5670 {
 
 	/* Streaming on/off */
 	bool streaming;
+	/* True if the device has been identified */
+	bool identified;
 };
 
 #define to_ov5670(_sd)	container_of(_sd, struct ov5670, sd)
@@ -2270,6 +2272,32 @@ static int ov5670_get_skip_frames(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, u32 *frames)
 	return 0;
 }
 
+/* Verify chip ID */
+static int ov5670_identify_module(struct ov5670 *ov5670)
+{
+	struct i2c_client *client = v4l2_get_subdevdata(&ov5670->sd);
+	int ret;
+	u32 val;
+
+	if (ov5670->identified)
+		return 0;
+
+	ret = ov5670_read_reg(ov5670, OV5670_REG_CHIP_ID,
+			      OV5670_REG_VALUE_24BIT, &val);
+	if (ret)
+		return ret;
+
+	if (val != OV5670_CHIP_ID) {
+		dev_err(&client->dev, "chip id mismatch: %x!=%x\n",
+			OV5670_CHIP_ID, val);
+		return -ENXIO;
+	}
+
+	ov5670->identified = true;
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
 /* Prepare streaming by writing default values and customized values */
 static int ov5670_start_streaming(struct ov5670 *ov5670)
 {
@@ -2278,6 +2306,10 @@ static int ov5670_start_streaming(struct ov5670 *ov5670)
 	int link_freq_index;
 	int ret;
 
+	ret = ov5670_identify_module(ov5670);
+	if (ret)
+		return ret;
+
 	/* Get out of from software reset */
 	ret = ov5670_write_reg(ov5670, OV5670_REG_SOFTWARE_RST,
 			       OV5670_REG_VALUE_08BIT, OV5670_SOFTWARE_RST);
@@ -2401,27 +2433,6 @@ static int __maybe_unused ov5670_resume(struct device *dev)
 	return 0;
 }
 
-/* Verify chip ID */
-static int ov5670_identify_module(struct ov5670 *ov5670)
-{
-	struct i2c_client *client = v4l2_get_subdevdata(&ov5670->sd);
-	int ret;
-	u32 val;
-
-	ret = ov5670_read_reg(ov5670, OV5670_REG_CHIP_ID,
-			      OV5670_REG_VALUE_24BIT, &val);
-	if (ret)
-		return ret;
-
-	if (val != OV5670_CHIP_ID) {
-		dev_err(&client->dev, "chip id mismatch: %x!=%x\n",
-			OV5670_CHIP_ID, val);
-		return -ENXIO;
-	}
-
-	return 0;
-}
-
 static const struct v4l2_subdev_video_ops ov5670_video_ops = {
 	.s_stream = ov5670_set_stream,
 };
@@ -2456,6 +2467,7 @@ static int ov5670_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 	struct ov5670 *ov5670;
 	const char *err_msg;
 	u32 input_clk = 0;
+	bool low_power;
 	int ret;
 
 	device_property_read_u32(&client->dev, "clock-frequency", &input_clk);
@@ -2472,11 +2484,14 @@ static int ov5670_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 	/* Initialize subdev */
 	v4l2_i2c_subdev_init(&ov5670->sd, client, &ov5670_subdev_ops);
 
-	/* Check module identity */
-	ret = ov5670_identify_module(ov5670);
-	if (ret) {
-		err_msg = "ov5670_identify_module() error";
-		goto error_print;
+	low_power = acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
+	if (!low_power) {
+		/* Check module identity */
+		ret = ov5670_identify_module(ov5670);
+		if (ret) {
+			err_msg = "ov5670_identify_module() error";
+			goto error_print;
+		}
 	}
 
 	mutex_init(&ov5670->mutex);
@@ -2513,10 +2528,10 @@ static int ov5670_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 	ov5670->streaming = false;
 
 	/*
-	 * Device is already turned on by i2c-core with ACPI domain PM.
-	 * Enable runtime PM and turn off the device.
+	 * Don't set the device's state to active if it's in a low power state.
 	 */
-	pm_runtime_set_active(&client->dev);
+	if (!low_power)
+		pm_runtime_set_active(&client->dev);
 	pm_runtime_enable(&client->dev);
 	pm_runtime_idle(&client->dev);
 
@@ -2558,7 +2573,7 @@ static const struct dev_pm_ops ov5670_pm_ops = {
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_ACPI
 static const struct acpi_device_id ov5670_acpi_ids[] = {
-	{"INT3479"},
+	{ "INT3479" },
 	{ /* sentinel */ }
 };
 
@@ -2573,6 +2588,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver ov5670_i2c_driver = {
 	},
 	.probe_new = ov5670_probe,
 	.remove = ov5670_remove,
+	.flags = I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE,
 };
 
 module_i2c_driver(ov5670_i2c_driver);
-- 
2.20.1


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* [PATCH v8 5/6] media: i2c: imx319: Support probe while the device is off
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] ov5670: Support probe whilst the device is in a " Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

From: Rajmohan Mani <rajmohan.mani@intel.com>

Tell ACPI device PM code that the driver supports the device being powered
off when the driver's probe function is entered.

Signed-off-by: Rajmohan Mani <rajmohan.mani@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
---
 drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c | 74 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
 1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c b/drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c
index 17c2e4b41221e..6b63bb0abb138 100644
--- a/drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c
+++ b/drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c
@@ -140,6 +140,8 @@ struct imx319 {
 
 	/* Streaming on/off */
 	bool streaming;
+	/* True if the device has been identified */
+	bool identified;
 };
 
 static const struct imx319_reg imx319_global_regs[] = {
@@ -2084,6 +2086,31 @@ imx319_set_pad_format(struct v4l2_subdev *sd,
 	return 0;
 }
 
+/* Verify chip ID */
+static int imx319_identify_module(struct imx319 *imx319)
+{
+	struct i2c_client *client = v4l2_get_subdevdata(&imx319->sd);
+	int ret;
+	u32 val;
+
+	if (imx319->identified)
+		return 0;
+
+	ret = imx319_read_reg(imx319, IMX319_REG_CHIP_ID, 2, &val);
+	if (ret)
+		return ret;
+
+	if (val != IMX319_CHIP_ID) {
+		dev_err(&client->dev, "chip id mismatch: %x!=%x",
+			IMX319_CHIP_ID, val);
+		return -EIO;
+	}
+
+	imx319->identified = true;
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
 /* Start streaming */
 static int imx319_start_streaming(struct imx319 *imx319)
 {
@@ -2091,6 +2118,10 @@ static int imx319_start_streaming(struct imx319 *imx319)
 	const struct imx319_reg_list *reg_list;
 	int ret;
 
+	ret = imx319_identify_module(imx319);
+	if (ret)
+		return ret;
+
 	/* Global Setting */
 	reg_list = &imx319_global_setting;
 	ret = imx319_write_regs(imx319, reg_list->regs, reg_list->num_of_regs);
@@ -2210,26 +2241,6 @@ static int __maybe_unused imx319_resume(struct device *dev)
 	return ret;
 }
 
-/* Verify chip ID */
-static int imx319_identify_module(struct imx319 *imx319)
-{
-	struct i2c_client *client = v4l2_get_subdevdata(&imx319->sd);
-	int ret;
-	u32 val;
-
-	ret = imx319_read_reg(imx319, IMX319_REG_CHIP_ID, 2, &val);
-	if (ret)
-		return ret;
-
-	if (val != IMX319_CHIP_ID) {
-		dev_err(&client->dev, "chip id mismatch: %x!=%x",
-			IMX319_CHIP_ID, val);
-		return -EIO;
-	}
-
-	return 0;
-}
-
 static const struct v4l2_subdev_core_ops imx319_subdev_core_ops = {
 	.subscribe_event = v4l2_ctrl_subdev_subscribe_event,
 	.unsubscribe_event = v4l2_event_subdev_unsubscribe,
@@ -2424,6 +2435,7 @@ static struct imx319_hwcfg *imx319_get_hwcfg(struct device *dev)
 static int imx319_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 {
 	struct imx319 *imx319;
+	bool low_power;
 	int ret;
 	u32 i;
 
@@ -2436,11 +2448,14 @@ static int imx319_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 	/* Initialize subdev */
 	v4l2_i2c_subdev_init(&imx319->sd, client, &imx319_subdev_ops);
 
-	/* Check module identity */
-	ret = imx319_identify_module(imx319);
-	if (ret) {
-		dev_err(&client->dev, "failed to find sensor: %d", ret);
-		goto error_probe;
+	low_power = acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
+	if (!low_power) {
+		/* Check module identity */
+		ret = imx319_identify_module(imx319);
+		if (ret) {
+			dev_err(&client->dev, "failed to find sensor: %d", ret);
+			goto error_probe;
+		}
 	}
 
 	imx319->hwcfg = imx319_get_hwcfg(&client->dev);
@@ -2493,10 +2508,10 @@ static int imx319_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 		goto error_media_entity;
 
 	/*
-	 * Device is already turned on by i2c-core with ACPI domain PM.
-	 * Enable runtime PM and turn off the device.
+	 * Don't set the device's state to active if it's in a low power state.
 	 */
-	pm_runtime_set_active(&client->dev);
+	if (!low_power)
+		pm_runtime_set_active(&client->dev);
 	pm_runtime_enable(&client->dev);
 	pm_runtime_idle(&client->dev);
 
@@ -2536,7 +2551,7 @@ static const struct dev_pm_ops imx319_pm_ops = {
 };
 
 static const struct acpi_device_id imx319_acpi_ids[] = {
-	{ "SONY319A" },
+	{ "SONY319A", },
 	{ /* sentinel */ }
 };
 MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(acpi, imx319_acpi_ids);
@@ -2549,6 +2564,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver imx319_i2c_driver = {
 	},
 	.probe_new = imx319_probe,
 	.remove = imx319_remove,
+	.flags = I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE,
 };
 module_i2c_driver(imx319_i2c_driver);
 
-- 
2.20.1


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* [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] media: i2c: imx319: Support probe while the device is off Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-03  8:15 ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-09  9:35   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
  2020-10-06 11:20   ` Tomasz Figa
  2020-09-11 12:49 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Luca Ceresoli
  2020-09-26 12:46 ` Tomasz Figa
  7 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-03  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

In certain use cases (where the chip is part of a camera module, and the
camera module is wired together with a camera privacy LED), powering on
the device during probe is undesirable. Add support for the at24 to
execute probe while being powered off. For this to happen, a hint in form
of a device property is required from the firmware.

Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
---
 drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
index 8f5de5f10bbea..2d24e33788d7d 100644
--- a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
+++ b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
@@ -595,6 +595,7 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 	bool i2c_fn_i2c, i2c_fn_block;
 	unsigned int i, num_addresses;
 	struct at24_data *at24;
+	bool low_power;
 	struct regmap *regmap;
 	bool writable;
 	u8 test_byte;
@@ -733,25 +734,30 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
 
 	i2c_set_clientdata(client, at24);
 
-	err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
-	if (err) {
-		dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
-		return err;
-	}
+	low_power = acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
+	if (!low_power) {
+		err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
+		if (err) {
+			dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
+			return err;
+		}
 
-	/* enable runtime pm */
-	pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
+		pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
+	}
 	pm_runtime_enable(dev);
 
 	/*
-	 * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the
-	 * chip is functional.
+	 * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the chip is functional,
+	 * unless powering on the device is to be avoided during probe (i.e.
+	 * it's powered off right now).
 	 */
-	err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
-	if (err) {
-		pm_runtime_disable(dev);
-		regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
-		return -ENODEV;
+	if (!low_power) {
+		err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
+		if (err) {
+			pm_runtime_disable(dev);
+			regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
+			return -ENODEV;
+		}
 	}
 
 	pm_runtime_idle(dev);
@@ -771,9 +777,11 @@ static int at24_remove(struct i2c_client *client)
 	struct at24_data *at24 = i2c_get_clientdata(client);
 
 	pm_runtime_disable(&client->dev);
-	if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
-		regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
-	pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
+	if (!acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev)) {
+		if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
+			regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
+		pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
+	}
 
 	return 0;
 }
@@ -810,6 +818,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver at24_driver = {
 	.probe_new = at24_probe,
 	.remove = at24_remove,
 	.id_table = at24_ids,
+	.flags = I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE,
 };
 
 static int __init at24_init(void)
-- 
2.20.1


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* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-09  9:35   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
  2020-09-09 11:11     ` Wolfram Sang
  2020-10-06 11:20   ` Tomasz Figa
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Bartosz Golaszewski @ 2020-09-09  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, LKML, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Rajmohan Mani,
	Tomasz Figa, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang,
	linux-media

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:15 AM Sakari Ailus
<sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> In certain use cases (where the chip is part of a camera module, and the
> camera module is wired together with a camera privacy LED), powering on
> the device during probe is undesirable. Add support for the at24 to
> execute probe while being powered off. For this to happen, a hint in form
> of a device property is required from the firmware.
>
> Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>  drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> index 8f5de5f10bbea..2d24e33788d7d 100644
> --- a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> +++ b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> @@ -595,6 +595,7 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
>         bool i2c_fn_i2c, i2c_fn_block;
>         unsigned int i, num_addresses;
>         struct at24_data *at24;
> +       bool low_power;
>         struct regmap *regmap;
>         bool writable;
>         u8 test_byte;
> @@ -733,25 +734,30 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
>
>         i2c_set_clientdata(client, at24);
>
> -       err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
> -       if (err) {
> -               dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
> -               return err;
> -       }
> +       low_power = acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
> +       if (!low_power) {
> +               err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
> +               if (err) {
> +                       dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
> +                       return err;
> +               }
>
> -       /* enable runtime pm */
> -       pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> +               pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> +       }
>         pm_runtime_enable(dev);
>
>         /*
> -        * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the
> -        * chip is functional.
> +        * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the chip is functional,
> +        * unless powering on the device is to be avoided during probe (i.e.
> +        * it's powered off right now).
>          */
> -       err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
> -       if (err) {
> -               pm_runtime_disable(dev);
> -               regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> -               return -ENODEV;
> +       if (!low_power) {
> +               err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
> +               if (err) {
> +                       pm_runtime_disable(dev);
> +                       regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> +                       return -ENODEV;
> +               }
>         }
>
>         pm_runtime_idle(dev);
> @@ -771,9 +777,11 @@ static int at24_remove(struct i2c_client *client)
>         struct at24_data *at24 = i2c_get_clientdata(client);
>
>         pm_runtime_disable(&client->dev);
> -       if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
> -               regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> -       pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
> +       if (!acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev)) {
> +               if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
> +                       regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> +               pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
> +       }
>
>         return 0;
>  }
> @@ -810,6 +818,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver at24_driver = {
>         .probe_new = at24_probe,
>         .remove = at24_remove,
>         .id_table = at24_ids,
> +       .flags = I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE,
>  };
>
>  static int __init at24_init(void)
> --
> 2.20.1
>

This currently conflicts with the fix I queued for at24 for v5.9.
Which tree is going to take this series?

Bartosz

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* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-09  9:35   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
@ 2020-09-09 11:11     ` Wolfram Sang
  2020-09-09 11:56       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Wolfram Sang @ 2020-09-09 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bartosz Golaszewski
  Cc: Sakari Ailus, linux-i2c, Rafael J. Wysocki,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, LKML, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Rajmohan Mani,
	Tomasz Figa, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang,
	linux-media


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> This currently conflicts with the fix I queued for at24 for v5.9.
> Which tree is going to take this series?

I recall we agreed on I2C.


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* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-09 11:11     ` Wolfram Sang
@ 2020-09-09 11:56       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
  2020-09-09 12:16         ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-11 12:11         ` Sakari Ailus
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Bartosz Golaszewski @ 2020-09-09 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Rafael J. Wysocki, ACPI Devel Maling List, LKML,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Rajmohan Mani, Tomasz Figa, Bingbu Cao,
	Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media, Wolfram Sang

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
>
>
> > This currently conflicts with the fix I queued for at24 for v5.9.
> > Which tree is going to take this series?
>
> I recall we agreed on I2C.
>

Sakari,

can you rebase the at24 driver patch on top of Wolfram's tree as soon
as he merges my PR with at24 fixes?

Bartosz

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-09 11:56       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
@ 2020-09-09 12:16         ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-11 12:11         ` Sakari Ailus
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-09 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bartosz Golaszewski
  Cc: linux-i2c, Rafael J. Wysocki, ACPI Devel Maling List, LKML,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Rajmohan Mani, Tomasz Figa, Bingbu Cao,
	Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media, Wolfram Sang

On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 01:56:34PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > This currently conflicts with the fix I queued for at24 for v5.9.
> > > Which tree is going to take this series?
> >
> > I recall we agreed on I2C.
> >
> 
> Sakari,
> 
> can you rebase the at24 driver patch on top of Wolfram's tree as soon
> as he merges my PR with at24 fixes?

Sure! This would be of course better than postponing this patch.

-- 
Regards,

Sakari Ailus

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* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-09 11:56       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
  2020-09-09 12:16         ` Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-11 12:11         ` Sakari Ailus
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-11 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bartosz Golaszewski
  Cc: linux-i2c, Rafael J. Wysocki, ACPI Devel Maling List, LKML,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Rajmohan Mani, Tomasz Figa, Bingbu Cao,
	Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media, Wolfram Sang

Bartosz, Wolfram,

On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 01:56:34PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > This currently conflicts with the fix I queued for at24 for v5.9.
> > > Which tree is going to take this series?
> >
> > I recall we agreed on I2C.
> >
> 
> Sakari,
> 
> can you rebase the at24 driver patch on top of Wolfram's tree as soon
> as he merges my PR with at24 fixes?

I need some additional time with the set, and that may take it beyond
v5.10. Either way, I'll keep you posted.

Thanks.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus

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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-11 12:49 ` Luca Ceresoli
  2020-09-11 13:01   ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-26 12:46 ` Tomasz Figa
  7 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Luca Ceresoli @ 2020-09-11 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus, linux-i2c
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi, linux-kernel,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Sakari,

On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
> 
> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
> 
> 
> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
> 
> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
> actually captured.
> 
> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.

Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.

This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
also cannot access the physical device at probe time.

I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
differences that need a better understanding.

First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
ACPI and DT.

Second, even though all the chips I'm interested in are connected via
I2C, some of them (IIO sensors) can alternatively be connected via SPI
and it would make perfectly sense to use SPI instead of I2C. The "i2c-"
prefix added in v8 on the ACPI property looks like a limitation in that
respect. The same reasoning applies to the implementation in the I2C
core, but implementation could be generalized later.

I'd love to know your opinion on the above points.

-- 
Luca


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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-11 12:49 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Luca Ceresoli
@ 2020-09-11 13:01   ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-14  7:58     ` Luca Ceresoli
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-11 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luca Ceresoli
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Luca,

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:49:26PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
> > without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
> > to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
> > check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
> > undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
> > and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
> > if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
> > time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
> > sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
> > 
> > An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
> > the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
> > 
> > 
> > The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
> > user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
> > the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
> > to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
> > power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
> > the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
> > without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
> > hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
> > simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
> > 
> > This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
> > on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
> > already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
> > user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
> > suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
> > application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
> > not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
> > computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
> > actually captured.
> > 
> > I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
> > i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
> > here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
> > at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.
> 
> Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.

No worries. But thanks for the comments.

> 
> This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
> also cannot access the physical device at probe time.
> 
> I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
> differences that need a better understanding.
> 
> First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
> similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
> acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
> ACPI and DT.

acpi_dev_state_low_power() is really ACPI specific: it does tell the ACPI
power state of the device during probe or remove. It is not needed on DT
since the power state of the device is controlled directly by the driver.
On I²C ACPI devices, it's the framework that powers them on for probe.

You could have a helper function on DT to tell a driver what to do in
probe, but the functionality in that case is unrelated.

I'll answer to the second point later on.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus

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* Re: [PATCH v8 3/6] ACPI: Add a convenience function to tell a device is in low power state
       [not found]   ` <0c2d4728-6e32-ef93-8961-381fe36cfdaa@linux.intel.com>
@ 2020-09-11 13:01     ` Sakari Ailus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-11 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bingbu Cao
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 08:06:06PM +0800, Bingbu Cao wrote:
...
> > @@ -987,6 +988,10 @@ static inline int acpi_dev_pm_attach(struct device *dev, bool power_on)
> >  {
> >  	return 0;
> >  }
> 
> Need a blank line here, ;).

I'll add that for v9.

-- 
Sakari Ailus

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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-11 13:01   ` Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-14  7:58     ` Luca Ceresoli
       [not found]       ` <20200914094727.GM26842@paasikivi.fi.intel.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Luca Ceresoli @ 2020-09-14  7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Sakari,

On 11/09/20 15:01, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:49:26PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> Hi Sakari,
>>
>> On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
>>> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
>>> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
>>> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
>>> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
>>> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
>>> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
>>> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
>>> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
>>>
>>> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
>>> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
>>>
>>>
>>> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
>>> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
>>> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
>>> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
>>> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
>>> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
>>> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
>>> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
>>> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
>>>
>>> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
>>> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
>>> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
>>> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
>>> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
>>> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
>>> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
>>> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
>>> actually captured.
>>>
>>> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
>>> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
>>> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
>>> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.
>>
>> Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.
> 
> No worries. But thanks for the comments.
> 
>>
>> This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
>> also cannot access the physical device at probe time.
>>
>> I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
>> differences that need a better understanding.
>>
>> First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
>> similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
>> ACPI and DT.
> 
> acpi_dev_state_low_power() is really ACPI specific: it does tell the ACPI
> power state of the device during probe or remove. It is not needed on DT
> since the power state of the device is controlled directly by the driver.
> On I²C ACPI devices, it's the framework that powers them on for probe.

I see, thanks for clarifying. I'm not used to ACPI so I didn't get that.

> You could have a helper function on DT to tell a driver what to do in
> probe, but the functionality in that case is unrelated.

So in case of DT we might think of a function that just tells whether
the device is marked to allow low-power probe, but it's just an info
from DT:

int mydriver_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
{
	...
	low_power = of_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
	if (!low_power) {
		mydriver_initialize(); /* power+clocks, write regs */
 	}
	...
}

...and, if (low_power), call mydriver_initialize() at first usage.

I'm wondering whether this might make sense in mainline.

-- 
Luca


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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
       [not found]       ` <20200914094727.GM26842@paasikivi.fi.intel.com>
@ 2020-09-14 16:49         ` Luca Ceresoli
  2020-09-23 11:08           ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-26 12:38         ` Tomasz Figa
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Luca Ceresoli @ 2020-09-14 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Sakari,

On 14/09/20 11:47, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> Hi Sakari,
>>
>> On 11/09/20 15:01, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>> Hi Luca,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:49:26PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>>>> Hi Sakari,
>>>>
>>>> On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
>>>>> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
>>>>> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
>>>>> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
>>>>> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
>>>>> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
>>>>> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
>>>>> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
>>>>> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
>>>>>
>>>>> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
>>>>> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
>>>>> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
>>>>> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
>>>>> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
>>>>> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
>>>>> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
>>>>> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
>>>>> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
>>>>> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
>>>>> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
>>>>> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
>>>>> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
>>>>> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
>>>>> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
>>>>> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
>>>>> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
>>>>> actually captured.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
>>>>> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
>>>>> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
>>>>> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.
>>>
>>> No worries. But thanks for the comments.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
>>>> also cannot access the physical device at probe time.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
>>>> differences that need a better understanding.
>>>>
>>>> First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
>>>> similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
>>>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
>>>> ACPI and DT.
>>>
>>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() is really ACPI specific: it does tell the ACPI
>>> power state of the device during probe or remove. It is not needed on DT
>>> since the power state of the device is controlled directly by the driver.
>>> On I²C ACPI devices, it's the framework that powers them on for probe.
>>
>> I see, thanks for clarifying. I'm not used to ACPI so I didn't get that.
>>
>>> You could have a helper function on DT to tell a driver what to do in
>>> probe, but the functionality in that case is unrelated.
>>
>> So in case of DT we might think of a function that just tells whether
>> the device is marked to allow low-power probe, but it's just an info
>> from DT:
>>
>> int mydriver_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
>> {
>> 	...
>> 	low_power = of_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
>> 	if (!low_power) {
>> 		mydriver_initialize(); /* power+clocks, write regs */
>>  	}
>> 	...
>> }
>>
>> ...and, if (low_power), call mydriver_initialize() at first usage.
>>
>> I'm wondering whether this might make sense in mainline.
> 
> Quite possibly, if there are drivers that would need it.
> 
> The function should probably be called differently though as what it does
> is quite different after all.
> 
> Unless... we did the following:
> 
> - Redefine the I²C driver flag added by this patchset into what tells the
>   I²C framework whether the driver does its own power management
>   independently of the I²C framework. It could be called e.g.
>   I2C_DRV_FL_FULL_PM, to indicate the driver is responsible for all power
>   management of the device, and the I²C framework would not power on the
>   device for probe or remove.
> 
> - Add a firmware function to tell whether the device identification should
>   take place during probe or not. For this is what we're really doing here
>   from driver's point of view: lazy device probing.

Indeed my needs have nothing to do with power management. What I need is
lazy device probing as the I2C bus may need time before it can be used.
From the driver code point of view it looks similar (there's an if()
around initializations in probe() and init is done later if needed), but
the usage is different.

Another approach would be to add a new I2C driver operation [say
init_hw()], then move code for lazy init out of probe() into init_hw().
probe() would still allocate resources. init_hw() would be called by the
framework (or the controller driver?) when it knows eveything is ready.
Just wild thoughts while I'm trying to focus the problem...

> There are no dependencies between the two but they can be used together to
> implement the same functionality as this patchset currently does. This way
> also the differences between driver implementations for ACPI and DT can be
> reduced as the logic is the same.
> 
> Further on, with this approach, if other busses happen to need this
> functionality in the future, it would be straightforward to add support ---
> it only takes to query whether it's indicated by the DT or ACPI property.
> 
> Thoughts, opinions?
> 

-- 
Luca


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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-14 16:49         ` Luca Ceresoli
@ 2020-09-23 11:08           ` Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-23 15:37             ` Luca Ceresoli
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-23 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luca Ceresoli
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Luca,

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 06:49:29PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> On 14/09/20 11:47, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > Hi Luca,
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> >> Hi Sakari,
> >>
> >> On 11/09/20 15:01, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> >>> Hi Luca,
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:49:26PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> >>>> Hi Sakari,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
> >>>>> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
> >>>>> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
> >>>>> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
> >>>>> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
> >>>>> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
> >>>>> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
> >>>>> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
> >>>>> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
> >>>>> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
> >>>>> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
> >>>>> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
> >>>>> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
> >>>>> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
> >>>>> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
> >>>>> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
> >>>>> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
> >>>>> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
> >>>>> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
> >>>>> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
> >>>>> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
> >>>>> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
> >>>>> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
> >>>>> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
> >>>>> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
> >>>>> actually captured.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
> >>>>> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
> >>>>> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
> >>>>> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.
> >>>
> >>> No worries. But thanks for the comments.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
> >>>> also cannot access the physical device at probe time.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
> >>>> differences that need a better understanding.
> >>>>
> >>>> First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
> >>>> similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
> >>>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
> >>>> ACPI and DT.
> >>>
> >>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() is really ACPI specific: it does tell the ACPI
> >>> power state of the device during probe or remove. It is not needed on DT
> >>> since the power state of the device is controlled directly by the driver.
> >>> On I²C ACPI devices, it's the framework that powers them on for probe.
> >>
> >> I see, thanks for clarifying. I'm not used to ACPI so I didn't get that.
> >>
> >>> You could have a helper function on DT to tell a driver what to do in
> >>> probe, but the functionality in that case is unrelated.
> >>
> >> So in case of DT we might think of a function that just tells whether
> >> the device is marked to allow low-power probe, but it's just an info
> >> from DT:
> >>
> >> int mydriver_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
> >> {
> >> 	...
> >> 	low_power = of_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
> >> 	if (!low_power) {
> >> 		mydriver_initialize(); /* power+clocks, write regs */
> >>  	}
> >> 	...
> >> }
> >>
> >> ...and, if (low_power), call mydriver_initialize() at first usage.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering whether this might make sense in mainline.
> > 
> > Quite possibly, if there are drivers that would need it.
> > 
> > The function should probably be called differently though as what it does
> > is quite different after all.
> > 
> > Unless... we did the following:
> > 
> > - Redefine the I²C driver flag added by this patchset into what tells the
> >   I²C framework whether the driver does its own power management
> >   independently of the I²C framework. It could be called e.g.
> >   I2C_DRV_FL_FULL_PM, to indicate the driver is responsible for all power
> >   management of the device, and the I²C framework would not power on the
> >   device for probe or remove.
> > 
> > - Add a firmware function to tell whether the device identification should
> >   take place during probe or not. For this is what we're really doing here
> >   from driver's point of view: lazy device probing.
> 
> Indeed my needs have nothing to do with power management. What I need is
> lazy device probing as the I2C bus may need time before it can be used.
> From the driver code point of view it looks similar (there's an if()
> around initializations in probe() and init is done later if needed), but
> the usage is different.
> 
> Another approach would be to add a new I2C driver operation [say
> init_hw()], then move code for lazy init out of probe() into init_hw().
> probe() would still allocate resources. init_hw() would be called by the
> framework (or the controller driver?) when it knows eveything is ready.
> Just wild thoughts while I'm trying to focus the problem...

What makes the controller driver not ready to operate the controller when
the client devices are probed?

-- 
Sakari Ailus

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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-23 11:08           ` Sakari Ailus
@ 2020-09-23 15:37             ` Luca Ceresoli
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Luca Ceresoli @ 2020-09-23 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani, Tomasz Figa,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Sakari,

On 23/09/20 13:08, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 06:49:29PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> Hi Sakari,
>>
>> On 14/09/20 11:47, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>> Hi Luca,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>>>> Hi Sakari,
>>>>
>>>> On 11/09/20 15:01, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>>>> Hi Luca,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:49:26PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Sakari,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
>>>>>>> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
>>>>>>> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
>>>>>>> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
>>>>>>> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
>>>>>>> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
>>>>>>> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
>>>>>>> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
>>>>>>> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
>>>>>>> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
>>>>>>> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
>>>>>>> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
>>>>>>> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
>>>>>>> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
>>>>>>> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
>>>>>>> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
>>>>>>> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
>>>>>>> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
>>>>>>> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
>>>>>>> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
>>>>>>> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
>>>>>>> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
>>>>>>> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
>>>>>>> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
>>>>>>> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
>>>>>>> actually captured.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
>>>>>>> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
>>>>>>> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
>>>>>>> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.
>>>>>
>>>>> No worries. But thanks for the comments.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
>>>>>> also cannot access the physical device at probe time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
>>>>>> differences that need a better understanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
>>>>>> similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
>>>>>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
>>>>>> ACPI and DT.
>>>>>
>>>>> acpi_dev_state_low_power() is really ACPI specific: it does tell the ACPI
>>>>> power state of the device during probe or remove. It is not needed on DT
>>>>> since the power state of the device is controlled directly by the driver.
>>>>> On I²C ACPI devices, it's the framework that powers them on for probe.
>>>>
>>>> I see, thanks for clarifying. I'm not used to ACPI so I didn't get that.
>>>>
>>>>> You could have a helper function on DT to tell a driver what to do in
>>>>> probe, but the functionality in that case is unrelated.
>>>>
>>>> So in case of DT we might think of a function that just tells whether
>>>> the device is marked to allow low-power probe, but it's just an info
>>>> from DT:
>>>>
>>>> int mydriver_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
>>>> {
>>>> 	...
>>>> 	low_power = of_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
>>>> 	if (!low_power) {
>>>> 		mydriver_initialize(); /* power+clocks, write regs */
>>>>  	}
>>>> 	...
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> ...and, if (low_power), call mydriver_initialize() at first usage.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering whether this might make sense in mainline.
>>>
>>> Quite possibly, if there are drivers that would need it.
>>>
>>> The function should probably be called differently though as what it does
>>> is quite different after all.
>>>
>>> Unless... we did the following:
>>>
>>> - Redefine the I²C driver flag added by this patchset into what tells the
>>>   I²C framework whether the driver does its own power management
>>>   independently of the I²C framework. It could be called e.g.
>>>   I2C_DRV_FL_FULL_PM, to indicate the driver is responsible for all power
>>>   management of the device, and the I²C framework would not power on the
>>>   device for probe or remove.
>>>
>>> - Add a firmware function to tell whether the device identification should
>>>   take place during probe or not. For this is what we're really doing here
>>>   from driver's point of view: lazy device probing.
>>
>> Indeed my needs have nothing to do with power management. What I need is
>> lazy device probing as the I2C bus may need time before it can be used.
>> From the driver code point of view it looks similar (there's an if()
>> around initializations in probe() and init is done later if needed), but
>> the usage is different.
>>
>> Another approach would be to add a new I2C driver operation [say
>> init_hw()], then move code for lazy init out of probe() into init_hw().
>> probe() would still allocate resources. init_hw() would be called by the
>> framework (or the controller driver?) when it knows eveything is ready.
>> Just wild thoughts while I'm trying to focus the problem...
> 
> What makes the controller driver not ready to operate the controller when
> the client devices are probed?

I'm working with a camera module connected via a serializer/deserializer
chip pair, and the link can go away and get back at any moment for
various reasons: mechanical, electromagnetic, cable not connected etc.
This scenario is not well handled with current kernel structures, so I'm
handling it partially with some local hacks but I'm always curious about
any possible kernel improvement that can improve the situation.

See these links for some info about my troubles:
https://lucaceresoli.net/plumbers-i2c-bof/
https://elinux.org/images/f/fc/Ceresoli-elce2019-video-serdes-linux.pdf
https://youtu.be/7hLv6fYAW-E?list=PLbzoR-pLrL6pamOj4UifcMJf560Ph6mJp

Your patchset looks very similar to something I need: not communicating
with the device during probe. Another piece would be to trigger a device
configuration "in some way" when the link is known to be back.

-- 
Luca

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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
       [not found]       ` <20200914094727.GM26842@paasikivi.fi.intel.com>
  2020-09-14 16:49         ` Luca Ceresoli
@ 2020-09-26 12:38         ` Tomasz Figa
  2020-09-27 19:39           ` Wolfram Sang
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Figa @ 2020-09-26 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: Luca Ceresoli, linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki,
	linux-acpi, linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:47:27PM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > Hi Sakari,
> > 
> > On 11/09/20 15:01, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > Hi Luca,
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:49:26PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > >> Hi Sakari,
> > >>
> > >> On 03/09/20 10:15, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
> > >>> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
> > >>> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
> > >>> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
> > >>> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
> > >>> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
> > >>> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
> > >>> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
> > >>> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
> > >>>
> > >>> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
> > >>> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
> > >>> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
> > >>> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
> > >>> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
> > >>> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
> > >>> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
> > >>> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
> > >>> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
> > >>> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
> > >>> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
> > >>> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
> > >>> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
> > >>> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
> > >>> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
> > >>> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
> > >>> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
> > >>> actually captured.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
> > >>> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
> > >>> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
> > >>> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.
> > >>
> > >> Apologies for having joined this discussion this late.
> > > 
> > > No worries. But thanks for the comments.
> > > 
> > >>
> > >> This patchset seems a good base to cover a different use case, where I
> > >> also cannot access the physical device at probe time.
> > >>
> > >> I'm going to try these patches, but in my case there are a few
> > >> differences that need a better understanding.
> > >>
> > >> First, I'm using device tree, not ACPI. In addition to adding OF support
> > >> similar to the work you've done for ACPI, I think instead of
> > >> acpi_dev_state_low_power() we should have a function that works for both
> > >> ACPI and DT.
> > > 
> > > acpi_dev_state_low_power() is really ACPI specific: it does tell the ACPI
> > > power state of the device during probe or remove. It is not needed on DT
> > > since the power state of the device is controlled directly by the driver.
> > > On I²C ACPI devices, it's the framework that powers them on for probe.
> > 
> > I see, thanks for clarifying. I'm not used to ACPI so I didn't get that.
> > 
> > > You could have a helper function on DT to tell a driver what to do in
> > > probe, but the functionality in that case is unrelated.
> > 
> > So in case of DT we might think of a function that just tells whether
> > the device is marked to allow low-power probe, but it's just an info
> > from DT:
> > 
> > int mydriver_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
> > {
> > 	...
> > 	low_power = of_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
> > 	if (!low_power) {
> > 		mydriver_initialize(); /* power+clocks, write regs */
> >  	}
> > 	...
> > }
> > 
> > ...and, if (low_power), call mydriver_initialize() at first usage.
> > 
> > I'm wondering whether this might make sense in mainline.
> 
> Quite possibly, if there are drivers that would need it.
> 
> The function should probably be called differently though as what it does
> is quite different after all.
> 
> Unless... we did the following:
> 
> - Redefine the I²C driver flag added by this patchset into what tells the
>   I²C framework whether the driver does its own power management
>   independently of the I²C framework. It could be called e.g.
>   I2C_DRV_FL_FULL_PM, to indicate the driver is responsible for all power
>   management of the device, and the I²C framework would not power on the
>   device for probe or remove.
> 
> - Add a firmware function to tell whether the device identification should
>   take place during probe or not. For this is what we're really doing here
>   from driver's point of view: lazy device probing.
> 
> There are no dependencies between the two but they can be used together to
> implement the same functionality as this patchset currently does. This way
> also the differences between driver implementations for ACPI and DT can be
> reduced as the logic is the same.
> 
> Further on, with this approach, if other busses happen to need this
> functionality in the future, it would be straightforward to add support ---
> it only takes to query whether it's indicated by the DT or ACPI property.
> 
> Thoughts, opinions?

I think we might be overly complicating things. IMHO the series as is
with the "i2c_" prefix removed from the flags introduced would be
reusable as is for any other subsystem that needs it. Of course, for
now, the handling of the flag would remain implemented only in the I2C
subsystem.

Best regards,
Tomasz

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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-03  8:15 [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Sakari Ailus
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-09-11 12:49 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off Luca Ceresoli
@ 2020-09-26 12:46 ` Tomasz Figa
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Figa @ 2020-09-26 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media

Hi Sakari,

On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 11:15:44AM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> These patches enable calling (and finishing) a driver's probe function
> without powering on the respective device on busses where the practice is
> to power on the device for probe. While it generally is a driver's job to
> check the that the device is there, there are cases where it might be
> undesirable. (In this case it stems from a combination of hardware design
> and user expectations; see below.) The downside with this change is that
> if there is something wrong with the device, it will only be found at the
> time the device is used. In this case (the camera sensors + EEPROM in a
> sensor) I don't see any tangible harm from that though.
> 
> An indication both from the driver and the firmware is required to allow
> the device's power state to remain off during probe (see the first patch).
> 
> 
> The use case is such that there is a privacy LED next to an integrated
> user-facing laptop camera, and this LED is there to signal the user that
> the camera is recording a video or capturing images. That LED also happens
> to be wired to one of the power supplies of the camera, so whenever you
> power on the camera, the LED will be lit, whether images are captured from
> the camera --- or not. There's no way to implement this differently
> without additional software control (allowing of which is itself a
> hardware design decision) on most CSI-2-connected camera sensors as they
> simply have no pin to signal the camera streaming state.
> 
> This is also what happens during driver probe: the camera will be powered
> on by the I²C subsystem calling dev_pm_domain_attach() and the device is
> already powered on when the driver's own probe function is called. To the
> user this visible during the boot process as a blink of the privacy LED,
> suggesting that the camera is recording without the user having used an
> application to do that. From the end user's point of view the behaviour is
> not expected and for someone unfamiliar with internal workings of a
> computer surely seems quite suspicious --- even if images are not being
> actually captured.
> 
> I've tested these on linux-next master. They also apply to Wolfram's
> i2c/for-next branch, there's a patch that affects the I²C core changes
> here (see below). The patches apart from that apply to Bartosz's
> at24/for-next as well as Mauro's linux-media master branch.

Besides the suggestion to make the defintions added less specific to i2c
(but still keeping the implementation so for now), feel free to add:

Reviewed-by: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>

Best regards,
Tomasz

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-26 12:38         ` Tomasz Figa
@ 2020-09-27 19:39           ` Wolfram Sang
  2020-09-27 19:44             ` Tomasz Figa
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Wolfram Sang @ 2020-09-27 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Figa
  Cc: Sakari Ailus, Luca Ceresoli, linux-i2c, Rafael J. Wysocki,
	linux-acpi, linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, rajmohan.mani,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, linux-media


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> I think we might be overly complicating things. IMHO the series as is
> with the "i2c_" prefix removed from the flags introduced would be
> reusable as is for any other subsystem that needs it. Of course, for
> now, the handling of the flag would remain implemented only in the I2C
> subsystem.

Just to be clear: you are suggesting to remove "i2c" from the DSD
binding "i2c-allow-low-power-probe". And you are not talking about
moving I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE to struct device_driver? I
recall the latter has been NACKed by gkh so far.


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* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-27 19:39           ` Wolfram Sang
@ 2020-09-27 19:44             ` Tomasz Figa
  2020-09-28 14:17               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Figa @ 2020-09-27 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfram Sang, Tomasz Figa, Sakari Ailus, Luca Ceresoli,
	linux-i2c, Rafael J. Wysocki, linux-acpi,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Mani, Rajmohan,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, Linux Media Mailing List

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:39 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
>
>
> > I think we might be overly complicating things. IMHO the series as is
> > with the "i2c_" prefix removed from the flags introduced would be
> > reusable as is for any other subsystem that needs it. Of course, for
> > now, the handling of the flag would remain implemented only in the I2C
> > subsystem.
>
> Just to be clear: you are suggesting to remove "i2c" from the DSD
> binding "i2c-allow-low-power-probe". And you are not talking about
> moving I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE to struct device_driver? I
> recall the latter has been NACKed by gkh so far.
>

I'd also drop "I2C_" from "I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE", but all
the implementation would remain where it is in the code. IOW, I'm just
suggesting a naming change to avoid proliferating duplicate flags of
the same meaning across subsystems.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-27 19:44             ` Tomasz Figa
@ 2020-09-28 14:17               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2020-09-28 16:49                 ` Tomasz Figa
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2020-09-28 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Figa
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Sakari Ailus, Luca Ceresoli, linux-i2c,
	Rafael J. Wysocki, ACPI Devel Maling List,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Mani, Rajmohan,
	Bartosz Golaszewski, Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu,
	Hyungwoo Yang, Linux Media Mailing List

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:39 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I think we might be overly complicating things. IMHO the series as is
> > > with the "i2c_" prefix removed from the flags introduced would be
> > > reusable as is for any other subsystem that needs it. Of course, for
> > > now, the handling of the flag would remain implemented only in the I2C
> > > subsystem.
> >
> > Just to be clear: you are suggesting to remove "i2c" from the DSD
> > binding "i2c-allow-low-power-probe". And you are not talking about
> > moving I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE to struct device_driver? I
> > recall the latter has been NACKed by gkh so far.
> >
>
> I'd also drop "I2C_" from "I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE", but all
> the implementation would remain where it is in the code. IOW, I'm just
> suggesting a naming change to avoid proliferating duplicate flags of
> the same meaning across subsystems.

But that would indicate that the property was recognized by other
subsystems which wouldn't be the case, so it would be confusing.

That's why it cannot be documented as a general property ATM too.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-28 14:17               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2020-09-28 16:49                 ` Tomasz Figa
  2020-09-28 20:49                   ` Sakari Ailus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Figa @ 2020-09-28 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: Wolfram Sang, Sakari Ailus, Luca Ceresoli, linux-i2c,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Mani, Rajmohan, Bartosz Golaszewski,
	Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang,
	Linux Media Mailing List

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:18 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:39 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think we might be overly complicating things. IMHO the series as is
> > > > with the "i2c_" prefix removed from the flags introduced would be
> > > > reusable as is for any other subsystem that needs it. Of course, for
> > > > now, the handling of the flag would remain implemented only in the I2C
> > > > subsystem.
> > >
> > > Just to be clear: you are suggesting to remove "i2c" from the DSD
> > > binding "i2c-allow-low-power-probe". And you are not talking about
> > > moving I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE to struct device_driver? I
> > > recall the latter has been NACKed by gkh so far.
> > >
> >
> > I'd also drop "I2C_" from "I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE", but all
> > the implementation would remain where it is in the code. IOW, I'm just
> > suggesting a naming change to avoid proliferating duplicate flags of
> > the same meaning across subsystems.
>
> But that would indicate that the property was recognized by other
> subsystems which wouldn't be the case, so it would be confusing.
>
> That's why it cannot be documented as a general property ATM too.

I guess that's true. Well, this is kAPI in the end, so if we have more
subsystems, it could be always renamed. So feel free to ignore my
previous comment.

Best regards,
Tomasz

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Support running driver's probe for a device powered off
  2020-09-28 16:49                 ` Tomasz Figa
@ 2020-09-28 20:49                   ` Sakari Ailus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sakari Ailus @ 2020-09-28 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Figa
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Wolfram Sang, Luca Ceresoli, linux-i2c,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Mani, Rajmohan, Bartosz Golaszewski,
	Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang,
	Linux Media Mailing List

Hi Tomasz,

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 06:49:22PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:18 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:39 PM Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think we might be overly complicating things. IMHO the series as is
> > > > > with the "i2c_" prefix removed from the flags introduced would be
> > > > > reusable as is for any other subsystem that needs it. Of course, for
> > > > > now, the handling of the flag would remain implemented only in the I2C
> > > > > subsystem.
> > > >
> > > > Just to be clear: you are suggesting to remove "i2c" from the DSD
> > > > binding "i2c-allow-low-power-probe". And you are not talking about
> > > > moving I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE to struct device_driver? I
> > > > recall the latter has been NACKed by gkh so far.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd also drop "I2C_" from "I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE", but all
> > > the implementation would remain where it is in the code. IOW, I'm just
> > > suggesting a naming change to avoid proliferating duplicate flags of
> > > the same meaning across subsystems.
> >
> > But that would indicate that the property was recognized by other
> > subsystems which wouldn't be the case, so it would be confusing.
> >
> > That's why it cannot be documented as a general property ATM too.
> 
> I guess that's true. Well, this is kAPI in the end, so if we have more
> subsystems, it could be always renamed. So feel free to ignore my
> previous comment.

I wouldn't expect this flag to be needed outside I²C since the other
potential use case (I3C) appears to be entirely free of power management,
so it's up to the drivers on ACPI, too.

The property itself, though, might be.

-- 
Regards,

Sakari Ailus

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off Sakari Ailus
  2020-09-09  9:35   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
@ 2020-10-06 11:20   ` Tomasz Figa
  2020-10-06 11:23     ` Tomasz Figa
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Figa @ 2020-10-06 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Mani, Rajmohan, Bartosz Golaszewski,
	Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang,
	Linux Media Mailing List, Sergey Senozhatsky

Hi Sakari,

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:15 AM Sakari Ailus
<sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> In certain use cases (where the chip is part of a camera module, and the
> camera module is wired together with a camera privacy LED), powering on
> the device during probe is undesirable. Add support for the at24 to
> execute probe while being powered off. For this to happen, a hint in form
> of a device property is required from the firmware.
>
> Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>  drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> index 8f5de5f10bbea..2d24e33788d7d 100644
> --- a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> +++ b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> @@ -595,6 +595,7 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
>         bool i2c_fn_i2c, i2c_fn_block;
>         unsigned int i, num_addresses;
>         struct at24_data *at24;
> +       bool low_power;
>         struct regmap *regmap;
>         bool writable;
>         u8 test_byte;
> @@ -733,25 +734,30 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
>
>         i2c_set_clientdata(client, at24);
>
> -       err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
> -       if (err) {
> -               dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
> -               return err;
> -       }
> +       low_power = acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
> +       if (!low_power) {
> +               err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
> +               if (err) {
> +                       dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
> +                       return err;
> +               }
>
> -       /* enable runtime pm */
> -       pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> +               pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> +       }
>         pm_runtime_enable(dev);
>

What's the guarantee that at this point the runtime PM wouldn't
suspend the device? Notice that the nvmem device is already exposed to
the userspace, which could trigger pm runtime gets and puts (and thus
idles as well).

Best regards,
Tomasz

>         /*
> -        * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the
> -        * chip is functional.
> +        * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the chip is functional,
> +        * unless powering on the device is to be avoided during probe (i.e.
> +        * it's powered off right now).
>          */
> -       err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
> -       if (err) {
> -               pm_runtime_disable(dev);
> -               regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> -               return -ENODEV;
> +       if (!low_power) {
> +               err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
> +               if (err) {
> +                       pm_runtime_disable(dev);
> +                       regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> +                       return -ENODEV;
> +               }
>         }
>
>         pm_runtime_idle(dev);
> @@ -771,9 +777,11 @@ static int at24_remove(struct i2c_client *client)
>         struct at24_data *at24 = i2c_get_clientdata(client);
>
>         pm_runtime_disable(&client->dev);
> -       if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
> -               regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> -       pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
> +       if (!acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev)) {
> +               if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
> +                       regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> +               pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
> +       }
>
>         return 0;
>  }
> @@ -810,6 +818,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver at24_driver = {
>         .probe_new = at24_probe,
>         .remove = at24_remove,
>         .id_table = at24_ids,
> +       .flags = I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE,
>  };
>
>  static int __init at24_init(void)
> --
> 2.20.1
>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] at24: Support probing while off
  2020-10-06 11:20   ` Tomasz Figa
@ 2020-10-06 11:23     ` Tomasz Figa
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Figa @ 2020-10-06 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sakari Ailus
  Cc: linux-i2c, Wolfram Sang, Rafael J. Wysocki,
	ACPI Devel Maling List, Linux Kernel Mailing List,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman, Mani, Rajmohan, Bartosz Golaszewski,
	Bingbu Cao, Chiranjeevi Rapolu, Hyungwoo Yang,
	Linux Media Mailing List, Sergey Senozhatsky

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 1:20 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Sakari,
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:15 AM Sakari Ailus
> <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > In certain use cases (where the chip is part of a camera module, and the
> > camera module is wired together with a camera privacy LED), powering on
> > the device during probe is undesirable. Add support for the at24 to
> > execute probe while being powered off. For this to happen, a hint in form
> > of a device property is required from the firmware.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
> >  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> > index 8f5de5f10bbea..2d24e33788d7d 100644
> > --- a/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> > +++ b/drivers/misc/eeprom/at24.c
> > @@ -595,6 +595,7 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
> >         bool i2c_fn_i2c, i2c_fn_block;
> >         unsigned int i, num_addresses;
> >         struct at24_data *at24;
> > +       bool low_power;
> >         struct regmap *regmap;
> >         bool writable;
> >         u8 test_byte;
> > @@ -733,25 +734,30 @@ static int at24_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
> >
> >         i2c_set_clientdata(client, at24);
> >
> > -       err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
> > -       if (err) {
> > -               dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
> > -               return err;
> > -       }
> > +       low_power = acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev);
> > +       if (!low_power) {
> > +               err = regulator_enable(at24->vcc_reg);
> > +               if (err) {
> > +                       dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable vcc regulator\n");
> > +                       return err;
> > +               }
> >
> > -       /* enable runtime pm */
> > -       pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> > +               pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> > +       }
> >         pm_runtime_enable(dev);
> >
>
> What's the guarantee that at this point the runtime PM wouldn't
> suspend the device? Notice that the nvmem device is already exposed to
> the userspace, which could trigger pm runtime gets and puts (and thus
> idles as well).
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz
>
> >         /*
> > -        * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the
> > -        * chip is functional.
> > +        * Perform a one-byte test read to verify that the chip is functional,
> > +        * unless powering on the device is to be avoided during probe (i.e.
> > +        * it's powered off right now).
> >          */
> > -       err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);

Actually never mind. Someone pointed out to me that at24_read() calls
pm_runtime_get_sync() internally, so we should be fine. Sorry, for the
noise.

Best regards,
Tomasz

> > -       if (err) {
> > -               pm_runtime_disable(dev);
> > -               regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> > -               return -ENODEV;
> > +       if (!low_power) {
> > +               err = at24_read(at24, 0, &test_byte, 1);
> > +               if (err) {
> > +                       pm_runtime_disable(dev);
> > +                       regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> > +                       return -ENODEV;
> > +               }
> >         }
> >
> >         pm_runtime_idle(dev);
> > @@ -771,9 +777,11 @@ static int at24_remove(struct i2c_client *client)
> >         struct at24_data *at24 = i2c_get_clientdata(client);
> >
> >         pm_runtime_disable(&client->dev);
> > -       if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
> > -               regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> > -       pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
> > +       if (!acpi_dev_state_low_power(&client->dev)) {
> > +               if (!pm_runtime_status_suspended(&client->dev))
> > +                       regulator_disable(at24->vcc_reg);
> > +               pm_runtime_set_suspended(&client->dev);
> > +       }
> >
> >         return 0;
> >  }
> > @@ -810,6 +818,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver at24_driver = {
> >         .probe_new = at24_probe,
> >         .remove = at24_remove,
> >         .id_table = at24_ids,
> > +       .flags = I2C_DRV_FL_ALLOW_LOW_POWER_PROBE,
> >  };
> >
> >  static int __init at24_init(void)
> > --
> > 2.20.1
> >

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2020-09-28 14:17               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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