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From: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
To: Xen <list@xenhideout.nl>
Cc: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Snapshot behavior on classic LVM vs ThinLVM
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:17:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6dd12ab9-0390-5c07-f4b7-de0d8fbbeacf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1b73e21196be7c50daa098b2724880a@xenhideout.nl>

Dne 22.4.2017 v 18:32 Xen napsal(a):
> Gionatan Danti schreef op 22-04-2017 9:14:
>> Il 14-04-2017 10:24 Zdenek Kabelac ha scritto:
>>> However there are many different solutions for different problems -
>>> and with current script execution - user may build his own solution -
>>> i.e.  call
>>> 'dmsetup remove -f' for running thin volumes - so all instances get
>>> 'error' device   when pool is above some threshold setting (just like
>>> old 'snapshot' invalidation worked) - this way user will just kill
>>> thin volume user task, but will still keep thin-pool usable for easy
>>> maintenance.
>>>
>>
>> This is a very good idea - I tried it and it indeed works.
> 
> So a user script can execute dmsetup remove -f on the thin pool?
> 
> Oh no, for all volumes.
> 
> That is awesome, that means a errors=remount-ro mount will cause a remount right?

Well 'remount-ro' will fail but you will not be able to read anything
from volume as well.

So as said - many users many different solutions are needed...

Currently lvm2 can't support that much variety and complexity...


> 
>> However, it is not very clear to me what is the best method to monitor
>> the allocated space and trigger an appropriate user script (I
>> understand that versione > .169 has %checkpoint scripts, but current
>> RHEL 7.3 is on .166).
>>
>> I had the following ideas:
>> 1) monitor the syslog for the "WARNING pool is dd.dd% full" message;
> 
> This is what my script is doing of course. It is a bit ugly and a bit messy by 
> now, but I could still clean it up :p.
> 
> However it does not follow syslog, but checks periodically. You can also 
> follow with -f.
> 
> It does not allow for user specified actions yet.
> 
> In that case it would fulfill the same purpose as > 169 only a bit more poverly.
> 
>> One more thing: from device-mapper docs (and indeed as observerd in my
>> tests), the "pool is dd.dd% full" message is raised one single time:
>> if a message is raised, the pool is emptied and refilled, no new
>> messages are generated. The only method I found to let the system
>> re-generate the message is to deactiveate and reactivate the thin pool
>> itself.
> 
> This is not my experience on LVM 111 from Debian.
> 
> For me new messages are generated when:
> 
> - the pool reaches any threshold again
> - I remove and recreate any thin volume.
> 
> Because my system regenerates snapshots, I now get an email from my script 
> when the pool is > 80%, every day.
> 
> So if I keep the pool above 80%, every day at 0:00 I get an email about it :p. 
> Because syslog gets a new entry for it. This is why I know :p.

The explanation here is simple - when you create a new thinLV - there is 
currently full suspend - and before 'suspend' pool is 'unmonitored'
after resume again monitored - and you get your warning logged again.


Zdenek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-22 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-06 14:31 [linux-lvm] Snapshot behavior on classic LVM vs ThinLVM Gionatan Danti
2017-04-07  8:19 ` Mark Mielke
2017-04-07  9:12   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-07 13:50     ` L A Walsh
2017-04-07 16:33       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-13 12:59         ` Stuart Gathman
2017-04-13 13:52           ` Xen
2017-04-13 14:33             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-13 14:47               ` Xen
2017-04-13 15:29               ` Stuart Gathman
2017-04-13 15:43                 ` Xen
2017-04-13 17:26                   ` Stuart D. Gathman
2017-04-13 17:32                   ` Stuart D. Gathman
2017-04-14 15:17                     ` Xen
2017-04-14  7:27               ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-14  7:23           ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-14 15:23             ` Xen
2017-04-14 15:53               ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-14 16:08                 ` Stuart Gathman
2017-04-14 17:36                 ` Xen
2017-04-14 18:59                   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-14 19:20                     ` Xen
2017-04-15  8:27                       ` Xen
2017-04-15 23:35                         ` Xen
2017-04-17 12:33                         ` Xen
2017-04-15 21:22                     ` Xen
2017-04-15 21:49                       ` Xen
2017-04-15 21:48                     ` Xen
2017-04-18 10:17                       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-18 13:23                         ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-18 14:32                           ` Stuart D. Gathman
2017-04-19  7:22                         ` Xen
2017-04-07 22:24     ` Mark Mielke
2017-04-08 11:56       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-07 18:21 ` Tomas Dalebjörk
2017-04-13 10:20 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-13 12:41   ` Xen
2017-04-14  7:20     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-14  8:24       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-14  9:07         ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-14  9:37           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-14  9:55             ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-22  7:14         ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-22 16:32           ` Xen
2017-04-22 20:58             ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-22 21:17             ` Zdenek Kabelac [this message]
2017-04-23  5:29               ` Xen
2017-04-23  9:26                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-24 21:02                   ` Xen
2017-04-24 21:59                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-26  7:26                       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-26  7:42                         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-26  8:10                           ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-26 11:23                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-26 13:37                               ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-26 14:33                                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-26 16:37                                   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-26 18:32                                     ` Stuart Gathman
2017-04-26 19:24                                     ` Stuart Gathman
2017-05-02 11:00                                     ` Gionatan Danti
2017-05-12 13:02                                       ` Gionatan Danti
2017-05-12 13:42                                         ` Joe Thornber
2017-05-14 20:39                                           ` Gionatan Danti
2017-05-15 12:50                                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-05-15 14:48                                               ` Gionatan Danti
2017-05-15 15:33                                                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-05-16  7:53                                                   ` Gionatan Danti
2017-05-16 10:54                                                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-05-16 13:38                                                       ` Gionatan Danti
2018-02-27 18:39                       ` Xen
2018-02-28  9:26                         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-02-28 19:07                           ` Gionatan Danti
2018-02-28 21:43                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-01  7:14                               ` Gionatan Danti
2018-03-01  8:31                                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-01  9:43                                   ` Gianluca Cecchi
2018-03-01 11:10                                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-01  9:52                                   ` Gionatan Danti
2018-03-01 11:23                                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-01 12:48                                       ` Gionatan Danti
2018-03-01 16:00                                         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-01 16:26                                           ` Gionatan Danti
2018-03-03 18:32                               ` Xen
2018-03-04 20:34                                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-03 18:17                             ` Xen
2018-03-04 20:53                               ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-05  9:42                                 ` Gionatan Danti
2018-03-05 10:18                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2018-03-05 14:27                                     ` Gionatan Danti
2018-03-03 17:52                           ` Xen
2018-03-04 23:27                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-22 21:22           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-04-24 13:49             ` Gionatan Danti
2017-04-24 14:48               ` Zdenek Kabelac

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