From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
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stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 20:37:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AF841145-ECD7-4675-8FE6-D1E3D471427E@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X+QMKC7jPEeThjB1@google.com>
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:09:10PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 05:21:43PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>> I don’t love this as a long term fix. AFAICT we can have mm_tlb_flush_pending set for quite a while — mprotect seems like it can wait in IO while splitting a huge page, for example. That gives us a window in which every write fault turns into a TLB flush.
>>>
>>> mprotect can't run concurrently with a page fault in the first place.
>>>
>>> One other near zero cost improvement easy to add if this would be "if
>>> (vma->vm_flags & (VM_SOFTDIRTY|VM_UFFD_WP))" and it could be made
>>> conditional to the two config options too.
>>>
>>> Still I don't mind doing it in some other way, uffd-wp has much easier
>>> time doing it in another way in fact.
>>>
>>> Whatever performs better is fine, but queuing up pending invalidate
>>> ranges don't look very attractive since it'd be a fixed cost that we'd
>>> always have to pay even when there's no fault (and there can't be any
>>> fault at least for mprotect).
>>
>> I think there are other cases in which Andy’s concern is relevant
>> (MADV_PAGEOUT).
>
> That patch only demonstrate a rough idea and I should have been
> elaborate: if we ever decide to go that direction, we only need to
> worry about "jumping through hoops", because the final patch (set)
> I have in mind would not only have the build time optimization Andrea
> suggested but also include runtime optimizations like skipping
> do_swap_page() path and (!PageAnon() || page_mapcount > 1). Rest
> assured, the performance impact on do_wp_page() from occasionally an
> additional TLB flush on top of a page copy is negligible.
I agree with you to a certain extent, since there is anyhow another TLB
flush in this path when the PTE is set after copying.
Yet, I think that having a combined and efficient central mechanism for
pending TLB flushes is important even for robustness: to prevent the
development of new independent deferred flushing schemes. I specifically do
not like tlb_flush_batched which every time that I look at gets me confused.
For example the following code completely confuses me:
void flush_tlb_batched_pending(struct mm_struct *mm)
{
if (data_race(mm->tlb_flush_batched)) {
flush_tlb_mm(mm);
/*
* Do not allow the compiler to re-order the clearing of
* tlb_flush_batched before the tlb is flushed.
*/
barrier();
mm->tlb_flush_batched = false;
}
}
… and then I ask myself (no answer):
1. What prevents concurrent flush_tlb_batched_pending() which is called by
madvise_free_pte_range(), for instance from madvise_free_pte_range(), from
clearing new deferred flush indication that was just set by
set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending()? Can it cause a missed TLB flush later?
2. Why the write to tlb_flush_batched is not done with WRITE_ONCE()?
3. Should we have smp_wmb() instead of barrier()? (probably the barrier() is
not needed at all since flush_tlb_mm() serializes if a flush is needed).
4. Why do we need 2 deferred TLB flushing mechanisms?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-24 4:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-19 4:30 [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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2020-12-19 22:06 ` Nadav Amit
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2020-12-21 5:39 ` Nadav Amit
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2020-12-20 2:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2020-12-22 21:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12 ` Yu Zhao
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2020-12-22 20:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2021-01-12 19:15 ` Nadav Amit
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2021-01-13 0:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2021-01-17 9:16 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13 ` Nadav Amit
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2020-12-22 9:38 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
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2020-12-22 21:14 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 0:23 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 2:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 9:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 2:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 3:36 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 15:52 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24 2:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 3:09 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:30 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:34 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24 4:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 5:18 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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2020-12-23 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24 1:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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