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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vinayak Menon <vinmenon@codeaurora.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	surenb@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:49:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <X/4LZ5NpCwYLgW1s@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2C7AE23B-ACA3-4D55-A907-AF781C5608F0@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:38:34PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:15:43AM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Le 12/01/2021 à 17:57, Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 04:47:17PM +0100, Laurent Dufour wrote:
> >>>>> Le 12/01/2021 à 12:43, Vinayak Menon a écrit :
> >>>>>> Possibility of race against other PTE modifiers
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 1) Fork - We have seen a case of SPF racing with fork marking PTEs RO and that
> >>>>>> is described and fixed here https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1062672/
> >>>> Right, that's exactly the kind of thing I was worried about.
> >>>>>> 2) mprotect - change_protection in mprotect which does the deferred flush is
> >>>>>> marked under vm_write_begin/vm_write_end, thus SPF bails out on faults
> >>>>>> on those VMAs.
> >>>> Sure, mprotect also changes vm_flags, so it really needs that anyway.
> >>>>>> 3) userfaultfd - mwriteprotect_range is not protected unlike in (2) above.
> >>>>>> But SPF does not take UFFD faults.
> >>>>>> 4) hugetlb - hugetlb_change_protection - called from mprotect and covered by
> >>>>>> (2) above.
> >>>>>> 5) Concurrent faults - SPF does not handle all faults. Only anon page faults.
> >>>> What happened to shared/file-backed stuff? ISTR I had that working.
> >>> 
> >>> File-backed mappings are not processed in a speculative way, there were options to manage some of them depending on the underlying file system but that's still not done.
> >>> 
> >>> Shared anonymous mapping, are also not yet handled in a speculative way (vm_ops is not null).
> >>> 
> >>>>>> Of which do_anonymous_page and do_swap_page are NONE/NON-PRESENT->PRESENT
> >>>>>> transitions without tlb flush. And I hope do_wp_page with RO->RW is fine as well.
> >>>> The tricky one is demotion, specifically write to non-write.
> >>>>>> I could not see a case where speculative path cannot see a PTE update done via
> >>>>>> a fault on another CPU.
> >>>> One you didn't mention is the NUMA balancing scanning crud; although I
> >>>> think that's fine, loosing a PTE update there is harmless. But I've not
> >>>> thought overly hard on it.
> >>> 
> >>> That's a good point, I need to double check on that side.
> >>> 
> >>>>> You explained it fine. Indeed SPF is handling deferred TLB invalidation by
> >>>>> marking the VMA through vm_write_begin/end(), as for the fork case you
> >>>>> mentioned. Once the PTL is held, and the VMA's seqcount is checked, the PTE
> >>>>> values read are valid.
> >>>> That should indeed work, but are we really sure we covered them all?
> >>>> Should we invest in better TLBI APIs to make sure we can't get this
> >>>> wrong?
> >>> 
> >>> That may be a good option to identify deferred TLB invalidation but I've no clue on what this API would look like.
> >> 
> >> I will send an RFC soon for per-table deferred TLB flushes tracking.
> >> The basic idea is to save a generation in the page-struct that tracks
> >> when deferred PTE change took place, and track whenever a TLB flush
> >> completed. In addition, other users - such as mprotect - would use
> >> the tlb_gather interface.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, due to limited space in page-struct this would only
> >> be possible for 64-bit (and my implementation is only for x86-64).
> > 
> > I don't want to discourage you but I don't think this would end up
> > well. PPC doesn't necessarily follow one-page-struct-per-table rule,
> > and I've run into problems with this before while trying to do
> > something similar.
> 
> Discourage, discourage. Better now than later.
> 
> It will be relatively easy to extend the scheme to be per-VMA instead of
> per-table for architectures that prefer it this way. It does require
> TLB-generation tracking though, which Andy only implemented for x86, so I
> will focus on x86-64 right now.
> 
> [ For per-VMA it would require an additional cmpxchg, I presume to save the
> last deferred generation though. ]
> 
> > I'd recommend per-vma and per-category (unmapping, clearing writable
> > and clearing dirty) tracking, which only rely on arch-independent data
> > structures, i.e., vm_area_struct and mm_struct.
> 
> I think that tracking changes on “what was changed” granularity is harder
> and more fragile.
> 
> Let me finish trying the clean up the mess first, since fullmm and
> need_flush_all semantics were mixed; there are 3 different flushing schemes
> for mprotect(), munmap() and try_to_unmap(); there are missing memory
> barriers; mprotect() performs TLB flushes even when permissions are
> promoted; etc.
> 
> There are also some optimizations that we discussed before, such on x86 - 
> RW->RO does not require a TLB flush if a PTE is not dirty, etc.
> 
> I am trying to finish something so you can say how terrible it is, so I will
> not waste too much time. ;-)
> 
> >> It would still require to do the copying while holding the PTL though.
> > 
> > IMO, this is unacceptable. Most archs don't support per-table PTL, and
> > even x86_64 can be configured to use per-mm PTL. What if we want to
> > support a larger page size in the feature?
> > 
> > It seems to me the only way to solve the problem with self-explanatory
> > code and without performance impact is to check mm_tlb_flush_pending
> > and the writable bit (and two other cases I mentioned above) at the
> > same time. Of course, this requires a lot of effort to audit the
> > existing uses, clean them up and properly wrap them up with new
> > primitives, BUG_ON all invalid cases and document the exact workflow
> > to prevent misuses.
> > 
> > I've mentioned the following before -- it only demonstrates the rough
> > idea.
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > index 5e9ca612d7d7..af38c5ee327e 100644
> > --- a/mm/memory.c
> > +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > @@ -4403,8 +4403,11 @@ static vm_fault_t handle_pte_fault(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> > 		goto unlock;
> > 	}
> > 	if (vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE) {
> > -		if (!pte_write(entry))
> > +		if (!pte_write(entry)) {
> > +			if (mm_tlb_flush_pending(vmf->vma->vm_mm))
> > +				flush_tlb_page(vmf->vma, vmf->address);
> > 			return do_wp_page(vmf);
> > +		}
> > 		entry = pte_mkdirty(entry);
> > 	}
> > 	entry = pte_mkyoung(entry);
> 
> I understand. This might be required, regardless of the deferred flushes
> detection scheme. If we assume that no write-unprotect requires a COW (which
> should be true in this case, since we take a reference on the page), your
> proposal should be sufficient.
> 
> Still, I think that there are many unnecessary TLB flushes right now,
> and others that might be missed due to the overly complicated invalidation
> schemes. 
> 
> Regardless, as Andrea pointed, this requires first to figure out the
> semantics of mprotect() and friends when pages are pinned.

Thanks, I appreciate your effort. I'd be glad to review whatever you
come up with.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-12 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-19  4:30 [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]   ` <EDC00345-B46E-4396-8379-98E943723809@gmail.com>
2020-12-19 22:06     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  2:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21  4:36         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:12           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  5:25             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:39               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  7:29                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 20:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 20:58         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:34           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  2:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  2:49       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  5:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-21 18:03           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 18:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  6:05     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-20  8:06       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  9:54         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  3:33           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  4:44             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 17:27         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 18:31           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 19:16             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 19:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:21                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 20:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:23                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 20:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 21:24                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 21:49                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 22:30                         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 22:55                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 23:30                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 23:46                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:44                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:19                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:17                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:00                               ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22  0:11                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:24                                   ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  3:19                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22  4:16                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 20:19                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-05 15:37                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 18:03                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-12 16:20                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 11:43                                   ` Vinayak Menon
2021-01-12 15:47                                     ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 16:57                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 19:02                                         ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 19:15                                           ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 19:56                                             ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 20:38                                               ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 20:49                                                 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2021-01-12 21:43                                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-12 22:29                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 22:46                                                     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-13  0:31                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-17  4:41                                                   ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17  7:32                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17  9:16                                                       ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 19:25                                                           ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-18  2:49                                                             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22  9:38                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-22 20:26                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:01                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:23                                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23  2:17                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  9:44                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24                                               ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32                                                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23  0:20                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  2:56                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  3:36                                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 15:52                                           ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  1:21                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24  2:00                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  3:09                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:30                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:34                                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24  4:01                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  5:18                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  4:37                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:31                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 23:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24  1:01                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23                             ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:45                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 23:55                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 21:55                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 23:13                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 19:53             ` Peter Xu

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