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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, minchan@kernel.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	yuzhao@google.com, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 14:06:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD367393-D1B3-4A84-AF92-9C6BAEAB40DC@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EDC00345-B46E-4396-8379-98E943723809@gmail.com>

> On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> [ cc’ing some more people who have experience with similar problems ]
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 08:30:06PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> Analyzing this problem indicates that there is a real bug since
>>> mmap_lock is only taken for read in mwriteprotect_range(). This might
>> 
>> Never having to take the mmap_sem for writing, and in turn never
>> blocking, in order to modify the pagetables is quite an important
>> feature in uffd that justifies uffd instead of mprotect. It's not the
>> most important reason to use uffd, but it'd be nice if that guarantee
>> would remain also for the UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT API, not only for the
>> other pgtable manipulations.
>> 
>>> Consider the following scenario with 3 CPUs (cpu2 is not shown):
>>> 
>>> cpu0				cpu1
>>> ----				----
>>> userfaultfd_writeprotect()
>>> [ write-protecting ]
>>> mwriteprotect_range()
>>> mmap_read_lock()
>>> change_protection()
>>> change_protection_range()
>>>  ...
>>>  change_pte_range()
>>>  [ defer TLB flushes]
>>> 				userfaultfd_writeprotect()
>>> 				 mmap_read_lock()
>>> 				 change_protection()
>>> 				 [ write-unprotect ]
>>> 				 ...
>>> 				  [ unprotect PTE logically ]
>>> 				...
>>> 				[ page-fault]
>>> 				...
>>> 				wp_page_copy()
>>> 				[ set new writable page in PTE]
>> 
>> Can't we check mm_tlb_flush_pending(vma->vm_mm) if MM_CP_UFFD_WP_ALL
>> is set and do an explicit (potentially spurious) tlb flush before
>> write-unprotect?
> 
> There is a concrete scenario that I actually encountered and then there is a
> general problem.
> 
> In general, the kernel code assumes that PTEs that are read from the
> page-tables are coherent across all the TLBs, excluding permission promotion
> (i.e., the PTE may have higher permissions in the page-tables than those
> that are cached in the TLBs).
> 
> We therefore need to both: (a) protect change_protection_range() from the
> changes of others who might defer TLB flushes without taking mmap_sem for
> write (e.g., try_to_unmap_one()); and (b) to protect others (e.g.,
> page-fault handlers) from concurrent changes of change_protection().
> 
> We have already encountered several similar bugs, and debugging such issues
> s time consuming and these bugs impact is substantial (memory corruption,
> security). So I think we should only stick to general solutions.
> 
> So perhaps your the approach of your proposed solution is feasible, but it
> would have to be applied all over the place: we will need to add a check for
> mm_tlb_flush_pending() and conditionally flush the TLB in every case in
> which PTEs are read and there might be an assumption that the
> access-permission reflect what the TLBs hold. This includes page-fault
> handlers, but also NUMA migration code in change_protection(), softdirty
> cleanup in clear_refs_write() and maybe others.
> 
> [ I have in mind another solution, such as keeping in each page-table a 
> “table-generation” which is the mm-generation at the time of the change,
> and only flush if “table-generation”==“mm-generation”, but it requires
> some thought on how to avoid adding new memory barriers. ]
> 
> IOW: I think the change that you suggest is insufficient, and a proper
> solution is too intrusive for “stable".
> 
> As for performance, I can add another patch later to remove the TLB flush
> that is unnecessarily performed during change_protection_range() that does
> permission promotion. I know that your concern is about the “protect” case
> but I cannot think of a good immediate solution that avoids taking mmap_lock
> for write.
> 
> Thoughts?

On a second thought (i.e., I don’t know what I was thinking), doing so —
checking mm_tlb_flush_pending() on every PTE read which is potentially
dangerous and flushing if needed - can lead to huge amount of TLB flushes
and shootodowns as the counter might be elevated for considerable amount of
time.

So this solution seems to me as a no-go.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-19 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-19  4:30 [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]   ` <EDC00345-B46E-4396-8379-98E943723809@gmail.com>
2020-12-19 22:06     ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2020-12-20  2:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21  4:36         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:12           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  5:25             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:39               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  7:29                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 20:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 20:58         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:34           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  2:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  2:49       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  5:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-21 18:03           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 18:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  6:05     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-20  8:06       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  9:54         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  3:33           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  4:44             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 17:27         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 18:31           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 19:16             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 19:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:21                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 20:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:23                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 20:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 21:24                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 21:49                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 22:30                         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 22:55                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 23:30                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 23:46                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:44                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:19                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:17                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:00                               ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22  0:11                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:24                                   ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  3:19                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22  4:16                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 20:19                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-05 15:37                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 18:03                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-12 16:20                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 11:43                                   ` Vinayak Menon
2021-01-12 15:47                                     ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 16:57                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 19:02                                         ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 19:15                                           ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 19:56                                             ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 20:38                                               ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 20:49                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 21:43                                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-12 22:29                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 22:46                                                     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-13  0:31                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-17  4:41                                                   ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17  7:32                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17  9:16                                                       ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 19:25                                                           ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-18  2:49                                                             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22  9:38                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-22 20:26                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:01                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:23                                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23  2:17                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  9:44                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24                                               ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32                                                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23  0:20                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  2:56                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  3:36                                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 15:52                                           ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  1:21                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24  2:00                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  3:09                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:30                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:34                                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24  4:01                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  5:18                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  4:37                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:31                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 23:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24  1:01                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23                             ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:45                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 23:55                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 21:55                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 23:13                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 19:53             ` Peter Xu

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