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From: Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: unsharing tcp connections from different NFS mounts
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 15:30:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201006193044.GC32640@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bb58e43a-f23d-d5f5-ac53-9230267f7faa@talpey.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 01:07:11PM -0400, Tom Talpey wrote:
> On 10/6/2020 11:22 AM, Bruce Fields wrote:
> >On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 11:20:41AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Oct 6, 2020, at 11:13 AM, bfields@fieldses.org wrote:
> >>>
> >>>NFSv4.1+ differs from earlier versions in that it always performs
> >>>trunking discovery that results in mounts to the same server sharing a
> >>>TCP connection.
> >>>
> >>>It turns out this results in performance regressions for some users;
> >>>apparently the workload on one mount interferes with performance of
> >>>another mount, and they were previously able to work around the problem
> >>>by using different server IP addresses for the different mounts.
> >>>
> >>>Am I overlooking some hack that would reenable the previous behavior?
> >>>Or would people be averse to an "-o noshareconn" option?
> >>
> >>I thought this was what the nconnect mount option was for.
> >
> >I've suggested that.  It doesn't isolate the two mounts from each other
> >in the same way, but I can imagine it might make it less likely that a
> >user on one mount will block a user on another?  I don't know, it might
> >depend on the details of their workload and a certain amount of luck.
> 
> Wouldn't it be better to fully understand the reason for the
> performance difference, before changing the mount API? If it's
> a guess, it'll come back to haunt the code for years.
> 
> For example, maybe it's lock contention in the xprt transport code,
> or in the socket stack.

Yeah, I wonder too, and I don't have the details.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-06 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-06 15:13 unsharing tcp connections from different NFS mounts J. Bruce Fields
2020-10-06 15:20 ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-06 15:22   ` Bruce Fields
2020-10-06 17:07     ` Tom Talpey
2020-10-06 19:30       ` Bruce Fields [this message]
     [not found]         ` <CAGrwUG5_KeRVR8chcA8=3FSeii2+4c8FbuE=CSGAtYVYqV4kLg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-07 14:08           ` Tom Talpey
2020-10-06 19:36 ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-10-06 21:46   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2020-10-07  0:18     ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-10-07 11:27       ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-10-07 12:55         ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-10-07 13:45           ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-07 14:05             ` Bruce Fields
2020-10-07 14:15               ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-07 16:05                 ` Bruce Fields
2020-10-07 16:44                   ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-07 17:15                     ` Bruce Fields
2020-10-07 17:29                       ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-07 18:05                         ` bfields
2020-10-07 19:11                           ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-07 20:29                             ` bfields
2020-10-07 18:04                     ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-10-07 18:19                       ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-07 16:50                   ` Trond Myklebust
2021-01-19 22:22                     ` bfields
2021-01-19 23:09                       ` Trond Myklebust
2021-01-20 15:07                         ` bfields
2021-05-03 20:09                           ` bfields
2021-05-04  2:08                             ` NeilBrown
2021-05-04 13:27                               ` Tom Talpey
2021-05-04 14:27                               ` Trond Myklebust
2021-05-04 16:51                                 ` bfields
2021-05-04 21:32                                   ` Daire Byrne
2021-05-04 21:48                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2021-05-05 12:53                                       ` Daire Byrne
2021-01-20 15:58                       ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-07 13:56 ` Patrick Goetz
2020-10-07 16:28   ` Igor Ostrovsky
2020-10-07 16:30   ` Benjamin Coddington

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