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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Xiaomeng Tong' <xiam0nd.tong@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/6] treewide: remove using list iterator after loop body as a ptr
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 04:58:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39404befad5b44b385698ff65465abe5@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220303022729.9321-1-xiam0nd.tong@gmail.com>

From: Xiaomeng Tong
> Sent: 03 March 2022 02:27
> 
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 14:04:06 +0000, David Laight
> <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> wrote:
> > I think that it would be better to make any alternate loop macro
> > just set the variable to NULL on the loop exit.
> > That is easier to code for and the compiler might be persuaded to
> > not redo the test.
> 
> No, that would lead to a NULL dereference.

Why, it would make it b ethe same as the 'easy to use':
	for (item = head; item; item = item->next) {
		...
		if (...)
			break;
		...
	}
	if (!item)
		return;
 
> The problem is the mis-use of iterator outside the loop on exit, and
> the iterator will be the HEAD's container_of pointer which pointers
> to a type-confused struct. Sidenote: The *mis-use* here refers to
> mistakely access to other members of the struct, instead of the
> list_head member which acutally is the valid HEAD.

The problem is that the HEAD's container_of pointer should never
be calculated at all.
This is what is fundamentally broken about the current definition.

> IOW, you would dereference a (NULL + offset_of_member) address here.

Where?

> Please remind me if i missed something, thanks.
>
> Can you share your "alternative definitions" details? thanks!

The loop should probably use as extra variable that points
to the 'list node' in the next structure.
Something like:
	for (xxx *iter = head->next;
		iter == &head ? ((item = NULL),0) : ((item = list_item(iter),1));
		iter = item->member->next) {
	   ...
With a bit of casting you can use 'item' to hold 'iter'.

> 
> > OTOH there may be alternative definitions that can be used to get
> > the compiler (or other compiler-like tools) to detect broken code.
> > Even if the definition can't possibly generate a working kerrnel.
> 
> The "list_for_each_entry_inside(pos, type, head, member)" way makes
> the iterator invisiable outside the loop, and would be catched by
> compiler if use-after-loop things happened.

It is also a compete PITA for anything doing a search.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-03  4:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-28 11:08 [PATCH 0/6] Remove usage of list iterator past the loop body Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/6] drivers: usb: remove " Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:24   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-28 12:03     ` Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 13:18       ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-28 18:20     ` Joe Perches
2022-03-01  5:52       ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-28 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/6] treewide: remove using list iterator after loop body as a ptr Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:20   ` Greg KH
2022-02-28 12:06     ` Jakob Koschel
2022-03-01 17:37       ` Greg KH
2022-02-28 12:19   ` Christian König
2022-02-28 19:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-28 20:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-28 20:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-28 20:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-28 20:53             ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-02-28 20:16           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-28 20:27             ` Johannes Berg
2022-02-28 20:41               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-28 20:37             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-28 23:26               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-01  0:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01  0:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01 18:14                   ` Kees Cook
2022-03-01 18:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01 19:01                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-01  3:03             ` David Laight
2022-02-28 21:47           ` Jakob Koschel
2022-03-01  0:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01  6:32               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-01 11:28               ` Jakob Koschel
2022-03-01 17:36                 ` Greg KH
2022-03-01 17:40                   ` Jakob Koschel
2022-03-01 17:58                     ` Greg KH
2022-03-01 18:21                 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-02  9:31               ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-03-02 14:04                 ` David Laight
2022-03-03  2:27                   ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-03-03  4:58                     ` David Laight [this message]
2022-03-03  7:26                       ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-03-03  9:30                         ` David Laight
2022-03-03 12:37                           ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-03-03 12:18                         ` [Kgdb-bugreport] " Daniel Thompson
2022-03-04  6:59                           ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-03-03  7:32                       ` Jakob Koschel
2022-03-03  8:30                         ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-03-03  8:38                           ` Xiaomeng Tong
2022-02-28 20:07       ` Christian König
2022-02-28 20:42         ` James Bottomley
2022-02-28 20:56           ` Christian König
2022-02-28 21:13             ` James Bottomley
2022-03-01  7:03               ` Christian König
2022-02-28 22:05             ` Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 21:18           ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-02-28 21:59           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-02-28 22:28             ` James Bottomley
2022-02-28 22:50               ` Barnabás Pőcze
2022-03-01  0:30               ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-01  0:54                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01 19:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01 19:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01 22:58                 ` David Laight
2022-03-01 23:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-01 23:19                     ` David Laight
2022-03-01 23:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-02  9:29                         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-03-02 20:07                           ` Kees Cook
2022-03-02 20:18                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-02 20:59                               ` Kees Cook
2022-03-03  8:37                             ` Dan Carpenter
2022-03-03 10:56                           ` Dan Carpenter
2022-03-01  2:15       ` David Laight
2022-02-28 13:13   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-28 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/6] treewide: fix incorrect use to determine if list is empty Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:38   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-28 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/6] drivers: remove unnecessary use of list iterator variable Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:08 ` [PATCH 5/6] treewide: remove dereference of list iterator after loop body Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:08 ` [PATCH 6/6] treewide: remove check of list iterator against head past the " Jakob Koschel
2022-02-28 11:22   ` Dominique Martinet
2022-02-28 13:12   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-03-01 20:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-02 17:14   ` [Intel-gfx] " Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-03-07 15:00 ` [PATCH 0/6] Remove usage of list iterator " Dan Carpenter
2022-03-07 15:26   ` David Laight

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