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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:09:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01080315090600.01827@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

On Friday 03 August 2001 05:13, Alexander Viro wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > There is only one chain of directories from the fd's dentry up to
> > the root, that's the one to sync.
>
> You forgot ".. at any given moment". IOW, operation you propose is
> inherently racy. You want to do that - you do that in userland.

Are you saying that there may not be a ".." some of the time?  Or just 
that it may spontaneously be relinked?  If it does spontaneously change 
it doesn't matter, you have still made sure there is access by at least 
one path.

The trouble with doing this in userland is, the locked chain of dcache 
entries isn't there.

--
Daniel

       reply	other threads:[~2001-08-03 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <0108030507330F.00440@starship>
     [not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-08-03 13:09   ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-08-03 14:43     ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Horst von Brand
2001-08-03 17:49     ` Mike Castle
2001-08-04  3:23       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 18:08     ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 18:26       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 18:53         ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 20:50           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-04  3:43           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 18:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-03 22:01         ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semantic change patch) Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 22:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:16             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:23               ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  3:53                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04  5:48                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 22:45           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:09             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:20                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:25                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:35                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:41                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:46                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:53                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  7:45                             ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semanticchange patch) Hans Reiser
2001-08-04 18:31                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05  1:47                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-08 17:22                                   ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semanticchangepatch) Hans Reiser
2001-08-03 23:42                       ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semantic change patch) Alan Cox
2001-08-03 23:44                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:08           ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04  1:19             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:45               ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04  4:04                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04 18:30                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05 12:15                     ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-05 12:32                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05 13:02                         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-08-04 21:07                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04 21:07               ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-05  7:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-09 13:25                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04 17:35           ` Jan Harkes
2001-08-04 18:18             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 15:02           ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06 20:48             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 22:29       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-08-03 23:06         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 15:23         ` looking for resources for designing loopback filesystem dave-mlist
2001-08-06 16:11           ` Ville Herva
2001-08-03 18:36   ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 19:16     ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  3:40       ` fdatasync(2) is also there (was: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread) Matthias Andree
2001-08-05  0:28         ` Mike Castle
2001-08-03 20:25 intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Sam James
     [not found] <0108030354130E.00440@starship>
     [not found] ` <200108030207.f7326OpR003086@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl>
2001-08-03 18:34   ` Matthias Andree
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-26  7:34 ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Andrew Morton
2001-08-01 16:02 ` ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-02  9:03   ` ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Matthias Andree
2001-08-02 17:26     ` ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Daniel Phillips
2001-08-02 17:37       ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Matthias Andree
2001-08-02 18:35         ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-02 18:47           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-02 22:18             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-02 23:11               ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]               ` <5.1.0.14.2.20010803025916.053e2ec0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
2001-08-03  9:16                 ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]             ` <5.1.0.14.2.20010803002501.00ada0e0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
     [not found]               ` <20010803021406.A9845@emma1.emma.line.org>
2001-08-03 16:20                 ` Jan Harkes
2001-08-03 22:48                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-02 19:47         ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2001-08-03 18:22           ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108030051070.1703-100000@fogarty.jakma.org>
     [not found]           ` <20010803021642.B9845@emma1.emma.line.org>
2001-08-03  7:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-03  8:39               ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03  9:57                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-08-04  7:55                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-03  8:30         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-03 18:28           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03  8:50         ` David Weinehall
2001-08-03 18:31           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 19:59           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-08-03 19:54             ` Gregory Maxwell

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