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From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@stud.uni-dortmund.de>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: fdatasync(2) is also there (was: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 05:40:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010804054043.F16516@emma1.emma.line.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010803203612.I31468@emma1.emma.line.org> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108031506180.3272-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108031506180.3272-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

On Fri, 03 Aug 2001, Alexander Viro wrote:

> Bingo. The whole thing relies on second-guessing the application.
> BTW, I can think of very legitimate cases when we want to create
> a bunch of files, fsync them as we go and then fsync the directory
> where they had been created. Application knows what and when should
> be synced _and_ it has a way to ask kernel to sync an object.

How portable is fsync()ing the directory?

How USEFUL is it to the application if all other boxen fsync() the
directory entries along with the file?

You want to sync the files, but the directory only after you created all
of the files? Use fdatasync(2) for the files - it doesn't flush meta
data, then sync the directory. It's POSIX, it's SUS v2.

Not everyone has it, though, so you may need to fall back to fsync() on
those systems.

-- 
Matthias Andree

  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-04  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <0108030507330F.00440@starship>
     [not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-08-03 13:09   ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 14:43     ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-03 17:49     ` Mike Castle
2001-08-04  3:23       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 18:08     ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 18:26       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 18:53         ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 20:50           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-04  3:43           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 18:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-03 22:01         ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semantic change patch) Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 22:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:16             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:23               ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  3:53                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04  5:48                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 22:45           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:09             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:20                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:25                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:35                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:41                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:46                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:53                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  7:45                             ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semanticchange patch) Hans Reiser
2001-08-04 18:31                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05  1:47                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-08 17:22                                   ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semanticchangepatch) Hans Reiser
2001-08-03 23:42                       ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semantic change patch) Alan Cox
2001-08-03 23:44                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:08           ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04  1:19             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:45               ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04  4:04                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04 18:30                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05 12:15                     ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-05 12:32                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05 13:02                         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-08-04 21:07                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04 21:07               ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-05  7:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-09 13:25                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04 17:35           ` Jan Harkes
2001-08-04 18:18             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 15:02           ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06 20:48             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 22:29       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-08-03 23:06         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 15:23         ` looking for resources for designing loopback filesystem dave-mlist
2001-08-06 16:11           ` Ville Herva
2001-08-03 18:36   ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 19:16     ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  3:40       ` Matthias Andree [this message]
2001-08-05  0:28         ` fdatasync(2) is also there (was: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread) Mike Castle

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