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From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@stud.uni-dortmund.de>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	Horst von Brand <vonbrand@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:36:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010803203612.I31468@emma1.emma.line.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0108030507330F.00440@starship> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

On Thu, 02 Aug 2001, Alexander Viro wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> > There is only one chain of directories from the fd's dentry up to the 
> > root, that's the one to sync.
> 
> You forgot ".. at any given moment". IOW, operation you propose is inherently
> racy. You want to do that - you do that in userland.

Applications usually protect their playgrounds - separate uid for
instance. If only the application has access to that area, and itself
does not trigger races, "at any given moment" is not a restriction.

-- 
Matthias Andree

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-08-03 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <0108030507330F.00440@starship>
     [not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108022312211.1494-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-08-03 13:09   ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 14:43     ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-03 17:49     ` Mike Castle
2001-08-04  3:23       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 18:08     ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 18:26       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 18:53         ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 20:50           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-04  3:43           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 18:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-03 22:01         ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semantic change patch) Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 22:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:16             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:23               ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  3:53                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04  5:48                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 22:45           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:09             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:20                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:25                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:35                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:41                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-03 23:46                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 23:53                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  7:45                             ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semanticchange patch) Hans Reiser
2001-08-04 18:31                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05  1:47                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-08 17:22                                   ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semanticchangepatch) Hans Reiser
2001-08-03 23:42                       ` [PATCH] 2.4.8-pre3 fsync entire path (+reiserfs fsync semantic change patch) Alan Cox
2001-08-03 23:44                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:08           ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04  1:19             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:45               ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04  4:04                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04 18:30                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05 12:15                     ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-05 12:32                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-05 13:02                         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-08-04 21:07                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-04 21:07               ` Andrew Morton
2001-08-05  7:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-09 13:25                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-04 17:35           ` Jan Harkes
2001-08-04 18:18             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 15:02           ` Chris Mason
2001-08-06 20:48             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-03 22:29       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-08-03 23:06         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 15:23         ` looking for resources for designing loopback filesystem dave-mlist
2001-08-06 16:11           ` Ville Herva
2001-08-03 18:36   ` Matthias Andree [this message]
2001-08-03 19:16     ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Alexander Viro
2001-08-04  3:40       ` fdatasync(2) is also there (was: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread) Matthias Andree
2001-08-05  0:28         ` Mike Castle
2001-08-03 20:25 intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Sam James
     [not found] <0108030354130E.00440@starship>
     [not found] ` <200108030207.f7326OpR003086@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl>
2001-08-03 18:34   ` Matthias Andree
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-26  7:34 ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Andrew Morton
2001-08-01 16:02 ` ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-02  9:03   ` ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Matthias Andree
2001-08-02 17:26     ` ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Daniel Phillips
2001-08-02 17:37       ` intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread Matthias Andree
2001-08-02 18:35         ` Alexander Viro
2001-08-02 18:47           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-02 22:18             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-02 23:11               ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]               ` <5.1.0.14.2.20010803025916.053e2ec0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
2001-08-03  9:16                 ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]             ` <5.1.0.14.2.20010803002501.00ada0e0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
     [not found]               ` <20010803021406.A9845@emma1.emma.line.org>
2001-08-03 16:20                 ` Jan Harkes
2001-08-03 22:48                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-02 19:47         ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2001-08-03 18:22           ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108030051070.1703-100000@fogarty.jakma.org>
     [not found]           ` <20010803021642.B9845@emma1.emma.line.org>
2001-08-03  7:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-03  8:39               ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03  9:57                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-08-04  7:55                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-03  8:30         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-08-03 18:28           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03  8:50         ` David Weinehall
2001-08-03 18:31           ` Matthias Andree
2001-08-03 19:59           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-08-03 19:54             ` Gregory Maxwell

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