From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: mjfrazer@somanetworks.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:13:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <049e01c0dd9c$ff9eae80$6800000a@brownell.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0105151927480.22958-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
> > I suppose that for network interface names, some convention for
> > interface ioctls would suffice to solve that "identify" step. PCI
> > devices would return the slot_name, USB devices need something
> > like a patch I posted to linux-usb-devel a few months back.
>
> This is crap.
Only the ioctl part, though I confess to trolling for a better proposal ... :)
> If you want to do it - do it right. Accessing /dev/eth/<n>/MAC
> is trivial. Wanking with ioctls is not. And populating such tree
> is as simple as it gets.
For links without a stable MAC, /.../net/<ifname>/{pci-slot,usb-path,...}
is more like it, but I think that class of solution should be fine.
Now ... what should be the roles of "regular" file ops, devfs, usbdevfs,
procfs, and "devreg" ? That's the part that doesn't seem simple yet.
I'd expect a few rounds of code/design changes.
- Dave
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2001-05-15 23:16 LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:35 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 0:13 ` David Brownell [this message]
2001-05-15 23:56 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-16 0:41 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-16 16:55 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 6:12 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-17 12:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-17 16:34 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 17:03 ` David Brownell
2001-05-17 16:17 ` David Brownell
2001-05-17 16:56 ` James Simmons
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2001-05-17 20:00 Brian Wheeler
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2001-05-17 8:58 Andries.Brouwer
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2001-05-17 1:18 ` Mike Anderson
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2001-05-21 7:16 ` Albert D. Cahalan
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2001-05-16 12:12 ` Oystein Viggen
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2001-05-19 18:21 ` Hans Reiser
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2001-05-16 15:14 ` Jonathan Lundell
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2001-05-16 11:08 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-05-15 23:49 Bingner Sam J. Contractor RSIS
2001-05-16 7:10 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-05-16 18:25 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 22:49 David Brownell
2001-05-15 22:21 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 23:35 ` David Brownell
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2001-05-17 18:39 ` Mark H. Wood
2001-05-15 21:27 Timothy A. Seufert
2001-05-15 21:38 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 7:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 15:50 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-05-15 21:26 Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
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2001-05-15 20:59 ` Jens-Uwe Mager
2001-05-15 17:00 David Balazic
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2001-05-16 20:05 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 20:13 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2001-05-16 20:16 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 20:21 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2001-05-14 19:19 H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 19:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 20:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 20:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 20:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:43 ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-05-14 23:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 20:55 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-14 21:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 21:37 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-14 21:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 21:33 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 6:41 ` Linus Torvalds
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2001-05-15 17:25 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:29 ` James Simmons
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2001-05-15 17:44 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:18 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-15 18:36 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 8:29 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-16 17:16 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:46 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 21:50 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 18:58 ` Johannes Erdfelt
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2001-05-15 21:58 ` Chip Salzenberg
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2001-05-15 21:22 ` James Simmons
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2001-05-15 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
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2001-05-15 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
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2001-05-15 18:57 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 5:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-15 5:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:11 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-14 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:23 ` Alexander Viro
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2001-05-14 23:32 ` Richard Gooch
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