From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Johannes Erdfelt <johannes@erdfelt.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
James Simmons <jsimmons@transvirtual.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:20:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010517102029.A44@toy.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010515145830.Y5599@sventech.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105151208540.2339-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010515154325.Z5599@sventech.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010515154325.Z5599@sventech.com>; from johannes@erdfelt.com on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:43:26PM -0400
Hi!
> > But no, I don't actually like sockets all that much myself. They are hard
> > to use from scripts, and many more people are familiar with open/close and
> > read/write.
>
> Agreed.
>
> It would be nice to use open/close/read/write for control and bulk and
> sockets for interrupt and isochronous.
What makes interrupt so different? Last time I checked int pipes were very
similar to bulk pipes... Do you care about "packet boundaries"? You can
somehow emulate with read, too...
Pavel
--
Philips Velo 1: 1"x4"x8", 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt,
details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-18 17:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 387+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-14 19:19 LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 19:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 20:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 20:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 20:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:43 ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-05-14 23:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 20:55 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-14 21:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 21:37 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-14 21:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 21:33 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 6:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 8:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 9:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 9:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 9:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 9:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 10:12 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 15:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 20:55 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 15:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:21 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 17:25 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:29 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 17:32 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:44 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:18 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-15 18:36 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 8:29 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-16 17:16 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:46 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 21:50 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 18:58 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 19:43 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 21:58 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-16 8:51 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-17 10:20 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-05-18 17:32 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-19 10:21 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 8:18 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-17 20:40 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-17 22:46 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 20:03 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 20:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:28 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-15 21:28 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:43 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 21:49 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 7:05 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 22:07 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 7:11 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-16 7:43 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 9:45 ` Malcolm Beattie
2001-05-16 0:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-16 1:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-16 1:51 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 11:34 ` Erik Mouw
2001-05-17 17:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-17 19:30 ` Jeff Randall
2001-05-16 7:17 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-16 1:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-16 1:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 20:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 21:22 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 10:42 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-18 18:32 ` James Simmons
2001-05-19 10:23 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants] Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:43 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 20:31 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-19 23:57 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 7:18 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNumber Registrants] Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 7:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 8:30 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNumberRegistrants] Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 10:09 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 0:01 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants] Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 11:17 ` handling network using filesystem [was Re: no ioctls for serial ports?] Pavel Machek
2001-05-20 9:53 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Num Kai Henningsen
2001-05-20 13:40 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 14:27 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-20 14:30 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNum Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 14:45 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:00 ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 15:18 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:40 ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 16:01 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:26 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-05-20 15:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 17:45 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 18:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 18:37 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 18:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 19:08 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 5:56 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Num Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 20:11 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNumber Registrants] Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-15 20:57 ` LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants James Simmons
2001-05-17 20:33 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:59 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 22:51 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:22 ` Jan Harkes
2001-05-15 21:39 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-15 18:02 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-15 19:31 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:10 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:41 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 21:47 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 22:14 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:24 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:38 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 22:28 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 22:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 7:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 18:22 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 20:01 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 20:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-16 20:44 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 20:54 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 21:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 22:11 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-16 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 22:21 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-16 23:03 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:37 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:41 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:49 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-17 21:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-17 21:06 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-16 23:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 23:58 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-17 0:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-17 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 1:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-17 9:33 ` Guest section DW
2001-05-15 20:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:42 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 21:46 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:07 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:40 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:28 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 23:39 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-16 20:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:49 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 23:22 ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-05-15 9:28 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 15:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 15:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 17:27 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 18:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 19:36 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-15 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 20:26 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-15 22:14 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-15 21:29 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-05-15 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 22:03 ` Jeff Mahoney
2001-05-15 22:42 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 21:51 ` Mark Frazer
2001-05-15 22:35 ` Bob Glamm
2001-05-16 0:56 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-05-16 6:56 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 8:02 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-05-16 12:20 ` Bogdan Costescu
2001-05-16 14:37 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 14:57 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-05-16 15:24 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 7:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-17 0:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 7:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-17 16:26 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 6:43 ` Thomas Sailer
2001-05-17 16:58 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 17:18 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 17:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-17 17:41 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 22:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-16 23:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-17 1:26 ` Joel Becker
2001-05-16 16:04 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-16 21:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-18 2:18 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-19 17:36 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-20 9:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-20 14:16 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-20 15:54 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-20 15:57 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-19 17:45 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-19 8:42 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-17 21:23 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 19:33 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-16 7:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-15 18:19 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 20:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 20:02 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-15 11:44 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-16 1:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-16 12:58 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-16 3:25 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 15:51 ` John Fremlin
2001-05-14 21:09 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-14 21:11 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 0:33 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-16 9:04 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-14 21:16 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 22:05 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 22:48 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:46 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 22:53 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 23:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 4:20 ` God
2001-05-15 7:48 ` 2.4 " bert hubert
2001-05-15 8:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 9:09 ` bert hubert
2001-05-14 23:39 ` LANANA: " Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 23:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-14 23:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 18:57 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 5:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-15 5:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:11 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-14 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:23 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 1:10 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-15 4:12 ` LANANA: Getting out of hand? God
2001-05-15 4:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-15 8:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:16 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-14 23:01 ` Interrupted sound with 2.4.4-ac6 Hermann Himmelbauer
2001-05-14 23:34 ` LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 21:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:32 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 20:09 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 20:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 17:37 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-17 11:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 15:58 ` Kurt Garloff
2001-05-15 17:00 David Balazic
2001-05-16 17:02 ` Hacksaw
2001-05-16 17:19 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2001-05-16 20:05 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 20:13 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2001-05-16 20:16 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 20:21 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
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2001-05-15 20:59 ` Jens-Uwe Mager
2001-05-15 21:26 Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-05-15 21:27 Timothy A. Seufert
2001-05-15 21:38 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 7:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 15:50 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-05-15 22:21 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 23:35 ` David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:55 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-17 18:39 ` Mark H. Wood
2001-05-15 22:49 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:16 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:35 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 0:13 ` David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:56 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-16 0:41 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-16 16:55 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 6:12 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-17 12:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-17 16:34 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 17:03 ` David Brownell
2001-05-17 16:17 ` David Brownell
2001-05-17 16:56 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 23:49 Bingner Sam J. Contractor RSIS
2001-05-16 7:10 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-05-16 18:25 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 0:01 Bingner Sam J. Contractor RSIS
2001-05-16 11:08 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-05-16 9:56 Chemolli Francesco (USI)
2001-05-16 11:18 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-16 12:09 ` Thomas Kotzian
2001-05-16 18:58 ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
2001-05-17 6:35 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-17 9:39 ` Guest section DW
2001-05-21 7:16 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-18 15:57 ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
2001-05-16 12:12 ` Oystein Viggen
2001-05-16 12:45 ` Josh Fryman
2001-05-16 13:28 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-16 18:37 ` Hacksaw
2001-05-16 16:30 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-16 16:18 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-18 14:17 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19 5:29 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-19 16:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19 18:21 ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-19 20:20 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-21 13:34 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-16 15:14 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 13:11 mike_phillips
2001-05-18 18:23 ` Mark H. Wood
2001-05-16 13:13 Jesse Pollard
2001-05-16 15:06 Khachaturov, Vassilii
2001-05-17 0:09 Dunlap, Randy
2001-05-17 0:18 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-17 1:18 ` Mike Anderson
2001-05-17 2:46 ` Willem Konynenberg
2001-05-17 9:42 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-17 8:58 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-17 20:00 Brian Wheeler
2001-05-18 8:24 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-18 8:27 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 14:06 ` Brian Wheeler
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2002-10-03 0:36 ` [PATCH] AFS filesystem for Linux (2/2) Linus Torvalds
2002-10-03 9:05 ` David Howells
2002-10-03 16:53 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-03 17:45 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-03 21:46 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 8:13 ` David Howells
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2002-10-04 14:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-04 15:35 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 15:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-04 15:56 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 16:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-04 16:17 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 17:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-04 17:29 ` David Howells
2002-10-07 14:14 ` David Howells
2002-10-07 14:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-07 15:36 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 16:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-04 15:34 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 16:07 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-04 16:56 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 17:36 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-07 9:14 ` David Howells
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