* (no subject) @ 2003-04-03 16:22 Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-03 19:22 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-04 8:13 ` Yahoo! includes empty html section in the mails Alex Riesen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-03 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Linux kernel FYI vger rejects mail sent from yahoo.com, claims that it has a HTML subpart and considers it spam or Outlook Virus. FYI any mail sent from yahoo will end up using the yahoo tools (qmail). This will put an empty HTML section in all mail. It is not a good thing to reject this because that means you reject all mail from yahoo. I have gotten several messages of this kind by persons who are not bold enough to report problems on their own. The last rejection of which I speak was rejected from N26835@yahoo.com on april 2 at 19:38:00 Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* (no subject) 2003-04-03 16:22 Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-03 19:22 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-03 20:02 ` your mail Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-04 8:13 ` Yahoo! includes empty html section in the mails Alex Riesen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: David S. Miller @ 2003-04-03 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: root; +Cc: Linux kernel On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 08:22, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > FYI vger rejects mail sent from yahoo.com, claims that it > has a HTML subpart and considers it spam or Outlook Virus. > > FYI any mail sent from yahoo will end up using the yahoo tools > (qmail). This will put an empty HTML section in all mail. It > is not a good thing to reject this because that means you reject > all mail from yahoo. That's yahoo users problem not ours. If you can't be bothered to get a plain text email out, you shouldn't be using these lists. VGER isn't the only place outright blocking HTML attached emails. -- David S. Miller <davem@redhat.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 19:22 ` David S. Miller @ 2003-04-03 20:02 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-03 19:24 ` Alan Cox ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-03 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David S. Miller; +Cc: Linux kernel On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 08:22, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > FYI vger rejects mail sent from yahoo.com, claims that it > > has a HTML subpart and considers it spam or Outlook Virus. > > > > FYI any mail sent from yahoo will end up using the yahoo tools > > (qmail). This will put an empty HTML section in all mail. It > > is not a good thing to reject this because that means you reject > > all mail from yahoo. > > That's yahoo users problem not ours. If you can't be bothered > to get a plain text email out, you shouldn't be using these > lists. > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection to the internet because of facist network administrators. It gets worse how that you can't tell a company to go screw themselves and get another job. The three engineers that I know who use yahoo do so because they don't have any choice and there is no way that they can configure the mailer to get rid of the empty HTML section. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 20:02 ` your mail Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-03 19:24 ` Alan Cox 2003-04-03 20:00 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-03 20:40 ` Trever L. Adams 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Alan Cox @ 2003-04-03 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: root; +Cc: David S. Miller, Linux Kernel Mailing List On Iau, 2003-04-03 at 21:02, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > to the internet because of facist network administrators. It gets > worse how that you can't tell a company to go screw themselves and > get another job. The three engineers that I know who use yahoo do > so because they don't have any choice and there is no way that they > can configure the mailer to get rid of the empty HTML section. There are lots of other free email providers. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 20:02 ` your mail Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-03 19:24 ` Alan Cox @ 2003-04-03 20:00 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-03 20:21 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-04 0:31 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-03 20:40 ` Trever L. Adams 2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David S. Miller @ 2003-04-03 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: root; +Cc: linux-kernel From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection to the internet because of facist network administrators. If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we can disable the filter if you want. I refuse to sit here and listen to all the "this is the only connection person FOO has to the internet" stories, quite frankly I'm absolutely sick of hearing them. If you don't have properly functioning mail, you can't use these lists. Period. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 20:00 ` David S. Miller @ 2003-04-03 20:21 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-03 20:15 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-04 0:31 ` William Scott Lockwood III 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-03 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David S. Miller; +Cc: linux-kernel On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) > > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > to the internet because of facist network administrators. > > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > can disable the filter if you want. No. I think you can let empty HTML sections go through. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 20:21 ` Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-03 20:15 ` David S. Miller 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David S. Miller @ 2003-04-03 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: root; +Cc: linux-kernel From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:21:25 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > can disable the filter if you want. No. I think you can let empty HTML sections go through. I think these people who it matters to can petition yahoo.com to drop this dumb empty HTML section. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 20:00 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-03 20:21 ` Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-04 0:31 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 0:40 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-04 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson 1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 0:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David S. Miller; +Cc: root, linux-kernel On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > to the internet because of facist network administrators. > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > can disable the filter if you want. > I refuse to sit here and listen to all the "this is the only > connection person FOO has to the internet" stories, quite frankly I'm > absolutely sick of hearing them. > If you don't have properly functioning mail, you can't use these > lists. > Period. When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 0:31 ` William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 0:40 ` David S. Miller 2003-04-04 0:47 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: David S. Miller @ 2003-04-04 0:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: vlad; +Cc: root, linux-kernel From: William Scott Lockwood III <vlad@geekizoid.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:31:13 -0800 (PST) When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. Maybe this is news to you, but I've been running LKML for 6 or so years now. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 0:40 ` David S. Miller @ 2003-04-04 0:47 ` William Scott Lockwood III 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 0:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David S. Miller; +Cc: root, linux-kernel Yeah, sorry - I thought HPA was running it for some reason. I still don't think you should make that kind of a call unilaterally, but hey - after all the incessant whining I put up with about using OE, I finally caved and moved to a real email address myself. I guess it just goes to show that if you while and act petulant long enough... On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > From: William Scott Lockwood III <vlad@geekizoid.com> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:31:13 -0800 (PST) > > When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. > > Maybe this is news to you, but I've been running LKML for > 6 or so years now. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 0:31 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 0:40 ` David S. Miller @ 2003-04-04 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-04 15:28 ` William Scott Lockwood III 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-04 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Scott Lockwood III; +Cc: David S. Miller, linux-kernel On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > > From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> > > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) > > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > > to the internet because of facist network administrators. > > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > > can disable the filter if you want. > > I refuse to sit here and listen to all the "this is the only > > connection person FOO has to the internet" stories, quite frankly I'm > > absolutely sick of hearing them. > > If you don't have properly functioning mail, you can't use these > > lists. > > Period. > > When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. > Well it's his "baseball" and; "You'll play by my rules or you won't play at all..." FYI, there is no Major Domo. It's Latin, major domus, "master of the house". He doith whatever he careth... Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-04 15:28 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Richard B. Johnson ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard B. Johnson; +Cc: David S. Miller, linux-kernel On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > > > From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> > > > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) > > > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > > > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > > > to the internet because of facist network administrators. > > > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > > > can disable the filter if you want. > > > I refuse to sit here and listen to all the "this is the only > > > connection person FOO has to the internet" stories, quite frankly I'm > > > absolutely sick of hearing them. > > > If you don't have properly functioning mail, you can't use these > > > lists. > > > Period. > > When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. > Well it's his "baseball" and; "You'll play by my rules or you won't > play at all..." > FYI, there is no Major Domo. It's Latin, major domus, "master of > the house". He doith whatever he careth... Yes, I can see that. No matter who it alienates. Weither or not he's checked with anyone else either. How about leting those of us who (like Linus) choose to use a commercial email product do so? Garbage about headers, etc. is just that - garbage. The best list is one that is inclusive. One that tollerates other opinions and choices. LKML has turned into the largest, nastiest click I've ever seen, and that's really sad, as I'm sure it scares some good people away. Look at all the crap I and others got for using hotmail - I finally got sick and tired of the whining and now have to take 3x as long to read my mail - but it's not a hotmail address anymore, so the whining stoped. Why not spend less timing restricting what people can read and post from, and just let people participate? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 15:28 ` William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Christoph Hellwig ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-04 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Scott Lockwood III; +Cc: David S. Miller, Linux kernel On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > > > > From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) > > > > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > > > > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > > > > to the internet because of facist network administrators. > > > > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > > > > can disable the filter if you want. > > > > I refuse to sit here and listen to all the "this is the only > > > > connection person FOO has to the internet" stories, quite frankly I'm > > > > absolutely sick of hearing them. > > > > If you don't have properly functioning mail, you can't use these > > > > lists. > > > > Period. > > > When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. > > Well it's his "baseball" and; "You'll play by my rules or you won't > > play at all..." > > FYI, there is no Major Domo. It's Latin, major domus, "master of > > the house". He doith whatever he careth... > > Yes, I can see that. No matter who it alienates. Weither or not he's > checked with anyone else either. How about leting those of us who (like > Linus) choose to use a commercial email product do so? Garbage about > headers, etc. is just that - garbage. The best list is one that is > inclusive. One that tollerates other opinions and choices. LKML has > turned into the largest, nastiest click I've ever seen, and that's really > sad, as I'm sure it scares some good people away. Look at all the crap I > and others got for using hotmail - I finally got sick and tired of the > whining and now have to take 3x as long to read my mail - but it's not a > hotmail address anymore, so the whining stoped. Why not spend less timing > restricting what people can read and post from, and just let people > participate? > Well SPAM is a very big problem and I can see that David is trying. Sometimes he has a bad day and pisses a few off with his answers. However, in every case in which somebody that I know of has complained, the problems did get "mysteriously" fixed so, like they say; "Don't go away mad. Just go away!". Once you get flammed for a few years, you get used to it. That's why some people send email to me rather than "the list". Sometimes I am able to help without having to forward their problems to the list. Sometimes I have to take a work-break and can't help, and other times I can't help because I don't know what they are talking about. Anyway if David wants invoke the rage of the Gods, yawn... It doesn't bother me anymore.... Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 15:28 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Richard B. Johnson @ 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Christoph Hellwig 2003-04-04 16:10 ` Jens Axboe 2003-04-04 20:37 ` Matti Aarnio 3 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2003-04-04 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Scott Lockwood III Cc: Richard B. Johnson, David S. Miller, linux-kernel On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:28:12AM -0800, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > Yes, I can see that. No matter who it alienates. Weither or not he's > checked with anyone else either. LKML is DaveM's list. If the choice he and his co-postmaster make don't suit yours or others need setup your own linux kernel list. > How about leting those of us who (like > Linus) choose to use a commercial email product do so? Garbage about > headers, etc. is just that - garbage. Who said anything about commercial products? lkml refuses _broken_ mails, it doesn't check what MUA you used. > and others got for using hotmail - I finally got sick and tired of the > whining and now have to take 3x as long to read my mail - but it's not a > hotmail address anymore, so the whining stoped. Why not spend less timing > restricting what people can read and post from, and just let people > participate? Please red the mail RFC and the nettiquette and come back once you've done that. Your current whining wastes our time. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 15:28 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-04 16:04 ` Christoph Hellwig @ 2003-04-04 16:10 ` Jens Axboe 2003-04-04 20:37 ` Matti Aarnio 3 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Jens Axboe @ 2003-04-04 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Scott Lockwood III Cc: Richard B. Johnson, David S. Miller, linux-kernel On Fri, Apr 04 2003, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David S. Miller wrote: > > > > From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) > > > > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > > > > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > > > > to the internet because of facist network administrators. > > > > If you want all the SPAM that will result on Linux-kernel, we > > > > can disable the filter if you want. > > > > I refuse to sit here and listen to all the "this is the only > > > > connection person FOO has to the internet" stories, quite frankly I'm > > > > absolutely sick of hearing them. > > > > If you don't have properly functioning mail, you can't use these > > > > lists. > > > > Period. > > > When did that become your call? I didn't realize you owned LKML. > > Well it's his "baseball" and; "You'll play by my rules or you won't > > play at all..." > > FYI, there is no Major Domo. It's Latin, major domus, "master of > > the house". He doith whatever he careth... > > Yes, I can see that. No matter who it alienates. Weither or not he's > checked with anyone else either. How about leting those of us who (like > Linus) choose to use a commercial email product do so? Garbage about > headers, etc. is just that - garbage. The best list is one that is > inclusive. One that tollerates other opinions and choices. LKML has > turned into the largest, nastiest click I've ever seen, and that's really > sad, as I'm sure it scares some good people away. Look at all the crap I > and others got for using hotmail - I finally got sick and tired of the > whining and now have to take 3x as long to read my mail - but it's not a > hotmail address anymore, so the whining stoped. Why not spend less timing > restricting what people can read and post from, and just let people > participate? Oh please go away. Would you rather see lkml be as ridden with spam as other lists? You have the right to use a commercial product, and you may also exercise your right to choose a _bad_ one. Besides, crap like the above doesn't carry much weight. Especially not from someone who rarely contributes anything but noise on the list. No time for whiners, to the kill file you go. -- Jens Axboe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-04 15:28 ` William Scott Lockwood III ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2003-04-04 16:10 ` Jens Axboe @ 2003-04-04 20:37 ` Matti Aarnio 3 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Matti Aarnio @ 2003-04-04 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Scott Lockwood III; +Cc: linux-kernel On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:28:12AM -0800, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: ... > The best list is one that is inclusive. One that tollerates other opinions > and choices. LKML has turned into the largest, nastiest click I've ever > seen, and that's really sad, as I'm sure it scares some good people away. Are you speaking about PEOPLE who react on emails by flaming, or something of list filtering "technology" ? > Look at all the crap I and others got for using hotmail - I finally > got sick and tired of the whining and now have to take 3x as long to > read my mail - but it's not a hotmail address anymore, so the whining > stoped. About people, then.. There I can't help, unfortunately. We have lots of people subscribing on Hotmail addresses, and only complaint I can voice is that those people will at times let their mailbox quotas overflow, which leads to bounces, and then subscription revocation... (Hard controlled quotas are not unique to Hotmail, nor people who let them overflow...) > Why not spend less timing restricting what people can read and post > from, and just let people participate? There is this small thing called spam... We have various filters (see my other posting), but obviously they are not infallible, a few spams do leak thru, and earn new filter rules (if I can think up something suitably specific, while generic..) A somewhat better anti-spam filter method, than what we use presently is to use strictly CLOSED list -- e.g. must be a member to post. I have seen what kind of pains closed lists are, I even moderate couple small ones. However we are deliberately running "open for posting, subject to filters" policy, which lets questions and reports to come from non-subscribers. /Matti Aarnio ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: your mail 2003-04-03 20:02 ` your mail Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-03 19:24 ` Alan Cox 2003-04-03 20:00 ` David S. Miller @ 2003-04-03 20:40 ` Trever L. Adams 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Trever L. Adams @ 2003-04-03 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: root; +Cc: David S. Miller, Linux Kernel Mailing List On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 15:02, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > Well it's not a yahoo users problem because yahoo users can't fix > it. Some yahoo users have yahoo "free" mail as their only connection > to the internet because of facist network administrators. It gets > worse how that you can't tell a company to go screw themselves and > get another job. The three engineers that I know who use yahoo do > so because they don't have any choice and there is no way that they > can configure the mailer to get rid of the empty HTML section. I would suggest that those who think Yahoo is there only option, check out digitalme.com or myrealbox.com. Web, pop, imap, etc. All free. Trever -- "Never raise your hand to your children - it leaves your midsection unprotected." -- Matthew Harrell ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Yahoo! includes empty html section in the mails 2003-04-03 16:22 Richard B. Johnson 2003-04-03 19:22 ` David S. Miller @ 2003-04-04 8:13 ` Alex Riesen 2003-04-04 15:12 ` William Scott Lockwood III 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Alex Riesen @ 2003-04-04 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard B. Johnson; +Cc: Linux kernel Richard B. Johnson, Thu, Apr 03, 2003 18:22:01 +0200: > FYI vger rejects mail sent from yahoo.com, claims that it > has a HTML subpart and considers it spam or Outlook Virus. > > FYI any mail sent from yahoo will end up using the yahoo tools > (qmail). This will put an empty HTML section in all mail. It > is not a good thing to reject this because that means you reject > all mail from yahoo. Is that actually so? ------------------ BEGIN ----------------------- Received: from mother.synopsys.com (mother.synopsys.com [146.225.100.171]) by goofy.gr05.synopsys.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22798 for <riesen@gr05.synopsys.com>; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:11:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from riesen@localhost) by mother.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA19327 for riesen@gr05.synopsys.com; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from boden.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mother.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA19321 for <Alexander.Riesen@synopsys.com>; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx45.postini.com [12.158.34.212]) by boden.synopsys.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AADCAE626 for <riesen@synopsys.com>; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([216.136.174.73]) by exprod5mx45.postini.com ([12.158.34.245]) with SMTP; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 00:11:08 PST Message-ID: <20030404081108.78756.qmail@web12906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.133.48.101] by web12906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 00:11:08 PST Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:11:08 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Riesen <fork0@yahoo.com> Subject: test3 To: Alexander.Riesen@synopsys.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.786700, version=0.11.1.3 fkdjlgksdlfgsd ldsjfgsjdlkfjdsjf sdfjglsdjfkljsdlk __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------ END ----------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Yahoo! includes empty html section in the mails 2003-04-04 8:13 ` Yahoo! includes empty html section in the mails Alex Riesen @ 2003-04-04 15:12 ` William Scott Lockwood III 2003-04-04 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alex Riesen; +Cc: Richard B. Johnson, Linux kernel The only problem with posting the full headers and source of the email, is you might confuse Dave with the facts. Remember: We hate anything free that isn't software, or anything "commercial" and will tar and feather you until you comply with the will of The Party. Dave will be around next week to install your telescreen... regards, another former prole ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Yahoo! includes empty html section in the mails 2003-04-04 15:12 ` William Scott Lockwood III @ 2003-04-04 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2003-04-04 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: William Scott Lockwood III; +Cc: Linux kernel On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:12:11AM -0800, William Scott Lockwood III wrote: > The only problem with posting the full headers and source of the email, is > you might confuse Dave with the facts. Remember: We hate anything free > that isn't software, or anything "commercial" and will tar and feather you > until you comply with the will of The Party. Dave will be around next > week to install your telescreen... Get a clue. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
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