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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Suspend 2 merge: 50/51: Device mapper support.
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 06:57:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1102103827.22511.10.camel@desktop.cunninghams> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041203174749.GF24233@agk.surrey.redhat.com>

Hi.

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 04:47, Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 09:08:18AM +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > My mistake. The code has been improved and I haven't reverted some of
> > the changes in drivers/md to match. I'll do that and make the two
> > exports that are needed (dm_io_get and dm_io_put) into an
> > include/linux/dm.h.
>  
> It would be device-mapper.h - or the whole of dm-io.h.
> The vmalloc comment also looks wrong BTW - it's extra kmalloc 
> GFP_KERNEL memory you're asking for here.
> 
> I'd like to understand why you need to call those functions
> and how it integrates with the rest of what you're doing:
> do you have calls to other dm functions in other patches?
> 
> Or is this particular change optional, but you have test results 
> showing it to be desirable or necessary in certain cases, maybe 
> indicating a shortcoming within the dm-io code which should be 
> addressed instead?
> 
> Alasdair

Okay. 

Pavel's method of storing the image has an inherent limit: you have to
get a consistent image, so you have to make an atomic copy of memory.
This implies a maximum image size of half of memory. If you want to save
all of your memory when suspending to disk, you simply can't. In order
to get around this limitation, I'm saving the image in two parts: LRU
pages and 'the rest'. The saving is done using highlevel routines (bio
calls, rather than our own polling or whatever drivers), but LRU pages
are guaranteed not to change while we're writing the image. We can then
use the space occupied by our (saved) LRU pages for the atomic copy. 

Prior to saving any of the pages, we generate all of the image meta
data, including (of course) the list of pages in both parts of the
image. But saving the LRU pages may also result in extra slab pages
being allocated, which could make our image inconsistent (they wouldn't
get saved, since we've already calculated which pages to save). To get
around this problem, we use a memory pool, to and from which all page
allocs are satisfied/returned while suspending. The pages in this pool
are unconditionally saved, thereby removing the potentiality of having
an inconsistent image.

Now the question arises, "How big should the memory pool be?". The
answer depends on how much I/O we intend to have on the fly at once
(among other things). If, therefore, we we're using DM crypt to do our
I/O, it will help if we can either get it to allocate the memory it will
need prior to us preparing the metadata, or get from it an amount of
memory to include in the pool, given the maximum amount of I/O we intend
to have on the fly at once.
-- 
Nigel Cunningham
Pastoral Worker
Christian Reformed Church of Tuggeranong
PO Box 1004, Tuggeranong, ACT 2901

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ
died for the ungodly.		-- Romans 5:6


  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-03 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 241+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-24 12:56 Suspend 2 merge Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:56 ` Suspend2 merge: 1/51: Device trees Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:56 ` Suspend2 merge: 2/51: Find class by name Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 3/51: e820 table support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:53   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 4/51: Get module list Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:25     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:32       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 5/51: Workthread freezer support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:57   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 7/51: Reboot handler hook Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:19     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  2:37       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 8/51: /proc/acpi/sleep hook Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 9/51: init/* changes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 17:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:36     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:45       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:51         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:58           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:03             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:30               ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  2:14     ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-27  7:22       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  9:31         ` Herbert Xu
2004-11-27 13:21           ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-27 16:20             ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:43             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 10/51: Exports for suspend built as modules Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 21:52     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 14:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 20:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:40     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:50       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 11/51: Export vt functions Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge:L 12/51: Disable OOM killer when suspending Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:12   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:47     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 13/51: Disable highmem tlb flush for copyback Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:13   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 14/51: Disable page alloc failure message when suspending Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 14:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:00   ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-24 21:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 22:25       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-25 18:15   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:49     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:46         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:22           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 15/51: Disable pdflush during suspend Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 16/51: Disable cache reaping " Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:18   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 17/51: Disable MCE checking " Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:19   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:05     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:31       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:38         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:45           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 18/51: Debug page_alloc support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:02   ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 22:26       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-25 18:21   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 19/51: Remove MTRR sysdev support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:27   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:22   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:34     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 20/51: Timer freezer (experimental) Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 21/51: Refrigerator upgrade Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:33   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:10     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:36       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:49         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:25           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:49             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:05               ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:12                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27 17:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 21:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 22/51: Suspend2 lowlevel code Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:42   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:20     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:55       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:56         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:39   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:38       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 23/51: PPC support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:40   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 24/51: Keyboard and serial console hooks Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 18:47     ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2004-11-24 21:38     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:57     ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-24 23:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-25  1:22         ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-25 10:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-26 20:21         ` pb
2004-11-25 19:28     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-28 23:39         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29 22:15           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 25/51: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 26/51: Kconfig and makefile Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:34   ` Roman Zippel
2004-11-24 21:11     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:46       ` Roman Zippel
2004-11-24 21:53         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  2:37     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 27/51: Block I/O module Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 28/51: Suspend memory pool hooks Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:34   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 29/51: Clear swapfile bdev in swapoff Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 30/51: Enable slab alloc fallback to suspend memory pool Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 31/51: Export tlb flushing Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 15:32   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-24 21:04     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 32/51: Make show task non-static Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 33/51: More documentation Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 34/51: Includes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 23:19       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-25  2:43         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 35/51: Code always built in to the kernel Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:32   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:57     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:08       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:17         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:23           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  2:19       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-28 22:39         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27  9:00       ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-27 17:22         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 36/51: Highlevel I/O routines Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  1:39     ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 37/51: Memory pool support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:37   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 38/51: Page directory support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 39/51: Plugins support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 40/51: Prepare image Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 41/51: Ranges (extents) Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 42/51: Suspend.c Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:52   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:23     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:43   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 43/51: Utility functions Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:46   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:04     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27 16:11       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-28 21:36         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 44/51: Text UI plugin Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 45/51: Bootsplash support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 46/51: LZF support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 23:01   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-11-25  2:38     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  6:32       ` hugang
2004-11-25  6:52         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-25  7:07           ` hugang
2004-11-25 10:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 47/51: GZIP support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:50   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 48/51: Swapwriter Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:55   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:05     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 49/51: Checksumming Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:14       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29  9:55   ` Rob Landley
2004-11-30  0:24     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 23:30       ` Rob Landley
2004-11-30  0:49         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 13:07           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 21:45             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 13:02     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 13:38       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-30 22:38         ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-02 21:31       ` Rob Landley
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 50/51: Device mapper support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:58   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:07     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-02 20:40       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-02 21:04         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-02 21:49           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-02 22:08             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-03 17:47               ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-03 19:57                 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2004-12-03 20:12                   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-14  0:47                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:03 ` Suspend 2 merge: 51/51: Notes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:01   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:09     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:24       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:03 ` Suspend 2 merge: 6/51 Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:28 ` Suspend 2 merge Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:46   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:20     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:22         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:46           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:39             ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  9:08               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26 12:38                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 15:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-26 22:36                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:35                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-28 23:55                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29  3:20                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 13:03                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30  0:24                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 10:19                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20041126082109.GA842@hugang.soulinfo.com>
2004-11-26 13:25                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20041126043203.GA2713@hugang.soulinfo.com>
2004-11-26  9:08                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26 13:37                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 13:31                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 21:40               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29  9:34             ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-11-29 22:20               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 22:34                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 12:16                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-11-30 21:16                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 22:20                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-01  9:27                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-01 10:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-01 20:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham

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