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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: ext3 allocate-with-reservation latencies
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:00:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1113847223.14961.141.camel@sisko.sctweedie.blueyonder.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1113597161.3899.80.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi,

On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 21:32, Mingming Cao wrote:

> Sorry for the delaying. I was not in office these days.
No problem.


> > > Also I am concerned about the possible
> > > starvation on writers.
> > In what way?
> I was worried about the rw lock case.:)

OK, so we're both on the same track here. :-)

> > Note that there _is_ some additional complexity here.  It's not entirely
> > free.  Specifically, if we have other tasks waiting on our provisional
> > window, then we need to be very careful about the life expectancy of the
> > wait queues involved, so that if the first task fixes its window and
> > then deletes it before the waiters have woken up, they don't get
> > confused by the provisional window vanishing while being waited for.

> This approach(provisional window) sounds interesting to me, but it's a
> little more complicated than I thought:(

Yep.  Once you have other tasks waiting on your window while it's not
locked, object lifetime becomes a much bigger problem.

> alloc_new_reservation()
> retry:
> lock the tree
> 	search for a new space start from the given startblock
> 	found a new space
> 	if the new space is not a "provisional window" 

I was thinking rather that we _start_ with the window, and _then_ look
for new space.

So we'd start with:

if we already have a window, 
	mark it provisional; 
else,
	do
		search for a new window;
		if the immediately preceding window is provisional, 
			wait for that window;
			continue;
		allocate the window and mark it provisional;
		break

At this point we have a provisional window, and we know that nobody else
is going to allocate either in it, or in the empty space following it
(because if they tried to, they'd bump into our own provisional window
as their predecessor and would wait for us.)  So even if the window
doesn't occupy the _whole_ unreserved area, we can still keep searching
without fear of multiple tasks trying to do so in the same space at the
same time.

--Stephen


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-18 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-05  3:51 ext3 allocate-with-reservation latencies Lee Revell
2005-04-05  4:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-05  6:10   ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-05 16:38     ` Lee Revell
2005-04-06  5:35   ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-06  9:51     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-06 16:53       ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-06 18:22         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-06 19:03           ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-07  8:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-07 13:08       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-07 19:16         ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-07 23:37         ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-08 14:40           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-08 16:06             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-08 18:10             ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-08 18:12               ` Lee Revell
2005-04-11 11:48               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-11 18:38                 ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-11 19:12                   ` Lee Revell
2005-04-11 19:22                     ` Lee Revell
2005-04-11 19:57                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-12  6:41                     ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-12 11:18                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-12 23:27                         ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-13 10:29                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found]                             ` <1113597161.3899.80.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2005-04-18 18:00                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2005-04-18 21:56                                 ` [Ext2-devel] " Mingming Cao
2005-04-22 22:10                             ` [RFC][PATCH] Reduce ext3 allocate-with-reservation lock latencies Mingming Cao
2005-04-28  3:45                               ` Lee Revell
2005-04-28  7:37                                 ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-28 16:12                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-04-28 18:34                                     ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-29  6:18                                       ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-28 19:14                                 ` [RFC] Adding multiple block allocation to current ext3 Mingming Cao
2005-04-29 13:52                                   ` [Ext2-devel] [RFC] Adding multiple block allocation Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-29 17:10                                     ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-29 19:42                                       ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-29 20:57                                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-29 21:12                                           ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-29 21:34                                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-30 16:00                                       ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-29 18:45                                     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-04-29 23:22                                       ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-30 16:10                                         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-30 17:11                                           ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-30 18:07                                             ` Mingming Cao
2005-05-02  4:46                                               ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-30 16:52                                       ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-30  0:33                                     ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-30  0:44                                     ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-30 17:03                                       ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2006-01-10 23:26                                   ` [PATCH 0/5] multiple block allocation to current ext3 Mingming Cao
2006-01-11  5:25                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-11 19:17                                       ` Mingming Cao
2006-01-11 19:43                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-11 21:31                                           ` Mingming Cao
2006-01-14  1:12                                           ` Fall back io scheduler for 2.6.15? Mingming Cao
2006-01-14  1:49                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-14  5:22                                               ` Dave Jones
2006-01-16  8:43                                               ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-16 19:45                                                 ` [PATCH] Fall back io scheduler ( Re: [Ext2-devel] Re: Fall back io scheduler for 2.6.15?) Mingming Cao
2006-01-16 19:49                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-16 19:57                                                     ` Mingming Cao
2006-01-19 19:37                                                 ` Fall back io scheduler for 2.6.15? Nate Diller
2006-01-20  8:10                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-16 19:38                                               ` [Ext2-devel] " Mingming Cao
2005-04-29  6:28                               ` [PATCH] Reduce ext3 allocate-with-reservation lock latencies Mingming Cao

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