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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Chubb <peterc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: checkpoint/restart ABI
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:11:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1218553870.5598.83.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d4kfds5i.wl%peterc@chubb.wattle.id.au>

On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 09:54 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
> Jeremy>    * multiple processes * pipes * UNIX domain sockets * INET
> Jeremy> sockets (both inter and intra machine) * unlinked open files *
> Jeremy> checkpointing file content * closed files (ie, files which
> Jeremy> aren't currently open, but will be soon, esp tmp files) *
> Jeremy> shared memory * (Peter, what have I forgotten?)
> 
> File sharing; multiple threads with wierd sharing arrangements (think:
> clone with various parameters, followed by exec in some of the threads
> but not others); MERT/system-V shared memory, semaphores and message
> queues; devices (audio, framebuffer, etc), HugeTLBFS, numa issues
> (pinning, memory layout), processes being debugged (so,
> checkpoint.restart a gdb/target pair), futexes, etc., etc.  Linux
> process state keeps expanding.

Yep, these are all challenges.  If you have some really specific
questions, or things you truly think can't be done, please speak up.
But, I really don't see any show stoppers in your list.

We also plan to do this incrementally.  The first consumers are likely
to be dumb, simple HPC apps that don't have real hardware like audio or
video.  Eventually, we'll get to real hardware like infiniband (ugh) or
audio.  Eventually.

(Actually futexes aren't that bad because they don't keep state
in-kernel)

-- Dave


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-12 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-07 22:40 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] kernel-based checkpoint restart Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Dave Hansen
2008-08-08  9:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 18:50     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 20:59       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:17         ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 23:27           ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14  8:09         ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-14 15:16           ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 22:26         ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09  0:43             ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  6:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09 13:39                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 15:07           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 15:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14  5:53             ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-14 15:12               ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-20 21:40               ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 15:22         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 16:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 17:11             ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 19:48             ` checkpoint/restart ABI Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 21:47               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 23:14                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-08-11 23:23                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-21  5:56                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-21  8:43                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:43                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 21:54               ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 23:38               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 23:54                 ` Peter Chubb
2008-08-12 14:49                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-28 23:40                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-12 15:11                   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2008-08-12 14:58                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 16:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-12 16:46                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 17:04                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-20 21:52                         ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 21:54                       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 22:11                         ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 18:03   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Jonathan Corbet
2008-08-11 18:38     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12  3:44       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-18  9:26   ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-20 19:10     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] checkpoint/restart: x86 support Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 20:28     ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 23:04         ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09  0:38           ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  1:20             ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09  2:20               ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  2:35                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-10 14:55             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 15:36               ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 16:07                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-09  6:43           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] checkpoint/restart: memory management Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] introduce sys_checkpoint and sys_restore Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 20:33     ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] kernel-based checkpoint restart Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 18:06   ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 18:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 19:44   ` Oren Laadan

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