From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: checkpoint/restart ABI
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:14:33 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080811171433.2ce81f28@bike.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808112347.50245.arnd@arndb.de>
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:47:49 +0200
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> The other problem that you really need to solve is interface
> stability. What you are creating is a binary representation
> of many kernel internal data structures, so in our common
> rules, you have to make sure that you remain forward and
> backward compatible. Simply saying that you need to run
> an identical kernel when restarting from a checkpoint is not
> enough IMHO.
OTOH, making one of these checkpoint files go into any 2.6.x kernel
seems like a very high bar, to the point, perhaps, of killing this
feature entirely.
There could be a case for viewing sys_restore() as being a lot like
sys_init_module() - a view into kernel internals that goes beyond the
normal user-space ABI, and beyond the stability guarantee. It might be
possible to create a certain amount of version portability with a
modversions-like mechanism, but it sure seems hard to do better than
that.
jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-11 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-07 22:40 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] kernel-based checkpoint restart Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 9:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 18:50 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 20:59 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:17 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 23:27 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14 8:09 ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-14 15:16 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 22:26 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09 0:43 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09 6:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09 13:39 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 15:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 15:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14 5:53 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-14 15:12 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-20 21:40 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 15:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 16:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 17:11 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 19:48 ` checkpoint/restart ABI Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 21:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 23:14 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2008-08-11 23:23 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-21 5:56 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-21 8:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:43 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 21:54 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 23:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 23:54 ` Peter Chubb
2008-08-12 14:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-28 23:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-12 15:11 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 14:58 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 16:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-12 16:46 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 17:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-20 21:52 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 21:54 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 22:11 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 18:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Jonathan Corbet
2008-08-11 18:38 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 3:44 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-18 9:26 ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-20 19:10 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] checkpoint/restart: x86 support Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 20:28 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 23:04 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09 0:38 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09 1:20 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09 2:20 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09 2:35 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-10 14:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 15:36 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 16:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-09 6:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] checkpoint/restart: memory management Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] introduce sys_checkpoint and sys_restore Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 20:33 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 9:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] kernel-based checkpoint restart Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 18:06 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 18:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 19:44 ` Oren Laadan
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