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From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"'Jassi Brar'" <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] dmaengine: add a slave parameter to __dma_request_channel()
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:28:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1331211513.4657.67.camel@vkoul-udesk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1331206459.4657.59.camel@vkoul-udesk3>

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:04 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 12:22 +0100, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 11:16 +0100, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > > I still have the impression, that my specific use-case (sh-mobile), where 
> > > > channels can be freely configured for use by _ANY_ client on one of 
> > > > _SEVERAL_ DMAC instances, is not fully understood or taken into account. 
> > > > For this driver any kind of fixed mapping means, that we'd have to use 
> > > > both virtual channels and controllers, adding _a lot_ of complexity to the 
> > > > DMAC driver and making the dmaengine core just an "obfuscation layer." 
> > > > Yes, I remember Russell proposing core helpers for this. They would help, 
> > > > but (1) when would they be available, (2) how well would they be suitable 
> > > > for us, (3) they'd take the coding / maintainance burden away, but 
> > > > wouldn't reduce complexity and run-time overhead. 
> > > Lets try to address you case as well.
> > > On a typical platform
> > 
> > Let's take the mackerel board with the sh7372 SoC. it's not the state of 
> > the art, but that's what I'm currently working with and it should give us 
> > a good enough idea
> > 
> > > 1) how many dma controllers you have?
> > 
> > currently supported 5 of 3 types (3 of type A, 1 of each of the types B 
> > and C), all handled by the same driver
> > 
> > > 2) how many clients you have
> > 
> > huh... many. Maybe like 20 or more, and more, that are not yet supported, 
> > using type A, and 1 for each of types B and C
> > 
> > > 3) which client can use what controller channel? How is mapping decided,
> > > do you have a mux, is it hard wired by soc designers,....?
> > 
> > In general - with all the current sh-mobile hardware, that I'm aware of - 
> > there can be several controller instances on an SoC of each controller 
> > type. Inside each type all instances and all channels are freely 
> > configurable. So, of 20 Type A clients they can use any channels on any 
> > one of the 3 type A controllers. Types B and C are "degenerate" cases, 
> > there clients are practically hard-wired to a specific DMA controller.
> > 
> > So, we don't have to decide on mappings for type A. We just pick up any 
> > free channels on any controller and configure them accordingly. Whether 
> > there's a mux somewhere - you can say so, but it's all inside the SoC, and 
> > it's configured automatically ones you configure a physical channel to 
> > serve a specific client.
> > 
> > > Can you pls give a description so that we ensure all models fit in the
> > > final solution?
> > 
> > That's what I've been trying to do since several days now... I've been 
> > saying "multiple controllers with multiple channels all freely 
> > configurable for any device from a list" again and again... Seems I'm 
> > speaking some strange language, that noone understands.
> Okay. One more question before I can tell you how it can work for you
> without you sweating it out :-)
> 
> So you have:
> case A: Here you have N dmacs and M controllers, any controller can use
> any channel, No constraints on channel assignments, right?
> case B: Some hardwired controllers P which can only be used by a set
> clients Q?
> 
> Anything else I missed in your description?
Assuming I didn't miss...

The case B can be handled without sweat by platforms channel mapping
information.

Case A where we don't find that devices exist in map, thus being treated
as generic DMA channels and can be handled easily in sequence. So when
someone in Q request a channel it would get first channel in Ps

This way we handle both of them in a transparent manner to both clients
and controllers. 

Perhaps we can also add capability to know that if channel is to be
searched in map or not - would be anyway required for non slave cases.

-- 
~Vinod


  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-08 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-01 15:26 [PATCH/RFC] dmaengine: add a slave parameter to __dma_request_channel() Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-02 13:21 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-06  8:30   ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-06  8:53     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-06 12:08       ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-06 13:03         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07  6:28           ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-07  9:18             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07  9:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-07  9:55                 ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-07 10:02                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07 10:31                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-07 12:30                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07 12:45                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07 12:46                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-07 13:49                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07 14:26                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-07 15:44                             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07 16:27                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-07 18:21                                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-08  6:30                                   ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-08 10:16                                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-08 10:55                                       ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-08 11:22                                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-08 11:34                                           ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-08 12:58                                             ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2012-03-08 13:18                                               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-09  9:21                                                 ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-09  9:24                                                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-09  9:39                                                     ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-09 12:20                                                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-09 14:07                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-09 14:15                                                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-12  2:47                                                         ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-12 19:47                                                           ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16  9:36                                                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-16 10:16                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16 10:31                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-16 11:09                                                               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-16 14:11                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16 14:28                                                                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-30  5:44                                                                     ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-30  6:40                                                                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-30 10:38                                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-03 20:36                                                                         ` Linus Walleij
2012-04-03 20:44                                                                         ` Linus Walleij
2012-04-12 21:33                                                                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-04-12 23:48                                                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-30 10:29                                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-30 10:40                                                                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-30 10:43                                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 11:58                                                                   ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-30 10:25                                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 11:39                                                               ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-19 11:37                                                             ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-19 11:47                                                               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-19 13:34                                                                 ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-19 13:38                                                                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-19 14:00                                                                     ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-19 14:09                                                                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-19 14:22                                                                         ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-19 14:45                                                                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-19 16:20                                                                             ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-19 16:32                                                                               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-20  7:11                                                                                 ` Vinod Koul
2012-03-08 11:46                                       ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-08 12:36                                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-07 16:31                         ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-07 16:20                     ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-07  9:46               ` Linus Walleij

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