From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>, Tibor Raschko <tibrasch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 09:32:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1594312370.10411.9.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200709161351.GF4960@sirena.org.uk>
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On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 17:13 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 10:01:18AM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > On 7/9/20 4:43 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > For coherency, if "blacklist/whitelist" won't be used anymore, an
> > > alternative to graylist should also be provided.
> > What is "graylist"? Does it mean in between allow/deny?
>
> Yes. Typically it's used in situations where you don't want to deny
> something but might for example want to do extra checks to verify
> that things are OK.
greylisting was originally pioneered by email. It's where you
initially reject an email but remember you did so and then let it
through if the retries follow an RFC mandated pattern. The technical
use spread from there since the technique (treating something as
untrusted until it proves trust) is very useful. It has its origin in
the English idiom "grey area" expressing doubt or lack of clarity.
The etymology of "grey area" is a grey area, but I'd bet it has to do
with not having the clarity of black and white ... but is equally
likely to be tied to Yin and Yang. Grey is also used in England to
describe the lack of clarity given by mist or fog (he woke up and saw
the world was very grey). I'd say we just leave it alone as too
distantly related to any problematic uses.
James
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2020-07-04 20:02 [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 23:41 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
[not found] ` <CAFhKne9MA_G-UsvBFfX-gZRcu9Gb7Xt7UxQ14MTppdU3X1VYdQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-07-05 1:10 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05 2:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-06 11:15 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 15:53 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05 2:54 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 20:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 23:34 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 2:12 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05 2:56 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 3:23 ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05 3:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 21:14 ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:25 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:51 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 23:39 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:08 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-05 1:32 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05 17:50 ` opal hart
2020-07-04 23:42 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:41 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 4:30 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-10 16:52 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-05 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-06 3:13 ` Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06 12:45 ` Chris Mason
2020-07-06 14:06 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 15:55 ` Chris Mason
2020-07-06 16:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 4:17 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 15:22 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:40 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <CAFhKne_ZVWVhZX5hNEbeGBfU6BMRN9JKQeTsVYOcMmEH1cd3xg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-07-06 7:06 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " NeilBrown
2020-07-06 7:10 ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06 7:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 7:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06 10:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 12:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:59 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:30 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 11:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-13 4:25 ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13 15:55 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 13:23 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 16:29 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-07 4:00 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 5:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 6:49 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 13:37 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:24 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:55 ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 6:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07 8:54 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 13:41 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 14:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 20:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 21:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 12:13 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 18:30 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 23:58 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-09 10:43 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 16:01 ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:13 ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:32 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2020-07-09 16:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-10 9:38 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 4:04 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 19:15 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07 0:48 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 21:26 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 23:54 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 4:08 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 9:36 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 21:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:10 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:17 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 23:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08 3:42 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08 10:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-07 6:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " SeongJae Park
2020-07-08 7:12 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08 9:28 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-07 7:51 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-08 18:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-17 8:35 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-26 15:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
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