From: "Murray J. Root" <murrayr@brain.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: State of devfs in 2.6?
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:13:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031209071303.GB24876@Master.launchmodem.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1070953338.7668.6.camel@simulacron>
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:02:19AM +0100, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 00:34, Greg KH wrote:
> > You have 15 floppy devices connected to your box? All floppy devices
> > should show up in /sys/block.
>
> No, 16 devices are normal, sysfs has only one:
> aj@simulacron:~/torrent/j-tv/download$ ls /dev/floppy/
> 0 0u1120 0u1600 0u1722 0u1760 0u1920 0u720 0u820
> 0u1040 0u1440 0u1680 0u1743 0u1840 0u360 0u800 0u830
> aj@simulacron:~/torrent/j-tv/download$ find /sys/block/fd* -name dev
> /sys/block/fd0/dev
>
> Are those floppy devices obsolete? fdformat was the only app to use
> them anyway, I guess. (Not that I use my floppy, I simply noticed
> the change.)
>
> > > I wouldn't call udev deprecated, unless a newer kernel has the
> > > essential devices, too.
> >
> > You mean s/udev/devfs/ right? :)
>
> oops, sorry.
>
> > > and
> > > re-introducing makedev for devices not represented
> > > in sysfs doesn't sound very nice either. So 2.8.* might be a nice time
> > > frame for dropping devfs, or at least give sysfs and udev a few months
> > > to catch up on the issues mentioned.
> >
> > Regardless of the state of udev, devfs has insolvable problems and you
> > should not use it. End of story.
>
> how many bug reports did you see in the last three months of people
> having problems with devfs? I don't doubt the problems in theory, but
> but I simply haven't seen them happening. Most users seem quite happy.
>
Actually, I think most users who have problems just disable devfs. Most of
the people I know have done that. No point in making bug reports about
something that is unmaintained and deprecated.
--
Murray J. Root
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-09 7:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-08 15:36 State of devfs in 2.6? Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 15:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-08 15:59 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 23:38 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 10:37 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-09 10:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 12:54 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2003-12-09 5:04 ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 19:09 ` udev sysfs docs " Bob
2003-12-08 23:37 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 5:17 ` Witukind
2003-12-09 7:21 ` Bob
2003-12-09 7:39 ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09 8:52 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 9:16 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 9:18 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:46 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 10:25 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 15:28 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 20:16 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 20:53 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 22:14 ` Olaf Hering
2003-12-09 22:46 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 23:03 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 7:56 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:00 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09 9:08 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09 9:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 11:01 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-12 11:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 13:33 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-12 14:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 16:34 ` Chuck Campbell
2003-12-12 17:13 ` Chris Friesen
2003-12-12 17:17 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-15 2:12 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-15 3:51 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-15 6:09 ` Tim Connors
2003-12-10 19:23 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 19:33 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 20:22 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 20:47 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 20:53 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 21:31 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:28 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 6:31 ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:49 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:48 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-11 1:53 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-11 8:42 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 16:33 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10 20:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:40 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09 9:55 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09 13:03 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09 15:01 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-09 18:30 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:53 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 7:02 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10 20:06 ` Witukind
2003-12-11 9:27 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-11 10:15 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 11:05 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10 0:38 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:26 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 9:41 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-10 8:13 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-12-10 8:24 ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 23:04 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:34 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 0:31 ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2003-12-09 0:42 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 0:51 ` [PATCH] sysfs support for vcs devices (was Re: State of devfs in 2.6?) Greg KH
2003-12-09 5:26 ` State of devfs in 2.6? Rob Landley
2003-12-09 18:19 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:20 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 7:02 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 7:13 ` Murray J. Root [this message]
2003-12-09 8:21 ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09 8:52 ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09 10:08 ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09 17:10 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10 5:42 ` Greg KH
2003-12-10 23:29 ` jw schultz
2003-12-11 20:32 ` [2.4.23] cursor dissapears in framebuffer console after switching back from X Witukind
2003-12-11 23:59 ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-12 6:24 ` Witukind
2003-12-09 8:32 ` State of devfs in 2.6? Greg KH
2003-12-09 9:59 ` Jan Dittmer
2003-12-09 13:54 ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09 16:27 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 16:47 ` Eduard Bloch
2003-12-09 19:33 ` Greg KH
2003-12-10 2:15 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-10 4:10 ` Bob
2003-12-09 7:33 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-12-09 9:48 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:35 ` Greg KH
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2003-12-09 16:22 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-12-09 18:50 Svetoslav Slavtchev
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