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From: mru@kth.se (Måns Rullgård)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev sysfs docs Re: State of devfs in 2.6?
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:26:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xhe0aibpw.fsf@kth.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1070960433.869.77.camel@nomade

Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr> writes:

>>   A:  That is correct.  If you really require this functionality, then
>>       use devfs.  There is no way that udev can support this, and it
>>       never will.
>
> That's something I don't understand: I thought that with a well
> configured hotplug+udev system, you'll never have to worry about loading
> drivers on device-node open() because all drivers should be auto-loaded
> and all device-nodes should be auto-created.
>
> Am I wrong ?

Let me give an example.  Hotplug will automatically load the ALSA
drivers for my sound card, and /dev/snd/* are created (by devfs or
udev, it doesn't matter for now).  Suppose that, some time, I run a
program that tries to use OSS for sound.  Now, the ALSA OSS emulation
is not loaded by hotplug, and I don't want it to.  It's nice to have
snd-pcm-oss automatically loaded when some legacy application tries to
use /dev/dsp.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mru@kth.se


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-09  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-08 15:36 State of devfs in 2.6? Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 15:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-08 15:59   ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 23:38     ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 10:37       ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-09 10:57         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 12:54         ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2003-12-09  5:04     ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 19:09   ` udev sysfs docs " Bob
2003-12-08 23:37     ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  5:17       ` Witukind
2003-12-09  7:21         ` Bob
2003-12-09  7:39           ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09  8:52             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  9:16             ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:45               ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  9:18           ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:46           ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 10:25             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 15:28               ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 20:16               ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 20:53                 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 22:14                   ` Olaf Hering
2003-12-09 22:46                   ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 23:03                     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  7:56         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:00           ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09  9:08             ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:19               ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09  9:39                 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 11:01                   ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-12 11:26                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 13:33                       ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-12 14:51                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 16:34                       ` Chuck Campbell
2003-12-12 17:13                         ` Chris Friesen
2003-12-12 17:17                         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-15  2:12                           ` Miles Bader
2003-12-15  3:51                             ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-15  6:09                             ` Tim Connors
2003-12-10 19:23                   ` Witukind
2003-12-10 19:33                     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 20:22                       ` Witukind
2003-12-10 20:47                         ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 20:53                           ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 21:31                             ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:28                           ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:48                             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11  6:31                               ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:49                           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:48                           ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-11  1:53                             ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-11  8:42                               ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 16:33                                 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10 20:48                         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:40                       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09  9:55               ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09 13:03                 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09 15:01                   ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-09 18:30                   ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:53                     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10  7:02                       ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10 20:06                         ` Witukind
2003-12-11  9:27                           ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-11 10:15                             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 11:05                               ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10  0:38                 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:26             ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2003-12-09  9:41               ` Miles Bader
2003-12-10  8:13           ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-12-10  8:24           ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 23:04   ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:34     ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  0:31       ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2003-12-09  0:42         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  0:51       ` [PATCH] sysfs support for vcs devices (was Re: State of devfs in 2.6?) Greg KH
2003-12-09  5:26       ` State of devfs in 2.6? Rob Landley
2003-12-09 18:19         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:20         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  7:02       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09  7:13         ` Murray J. Root
2003-12-09  8:21           ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09  8:52             ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09 10:08               ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09 17:10             ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10  5:42               ` Greg KH
2003-12-10 23:29                 ` jw schultz
2003-12-11 20:32                 ` [2.4.23] cursor dissapears in framebuffer console after switching back from X Witukind
2003-12-11 23:59                   ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-12  6:24                     ` Witukind
2003-12-09  8:32         ` State of devfs in 2.6? Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:59           ` Jan Dittmer
2003-12-09 13:54             ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09 16:27             ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 16:47               ` Eduard Bloch
2003-12-09 19:33                 ` Greg KH
2003-12-10  2:15           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-10  4:10             ` Bob
2003-12-09  7:33       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-12-09  9:48       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:35 ` Greg KH

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