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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [patch 00/21] hrtimer - High-resolution timer subsystem
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:55:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051207165550.GA2426@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512070347450.1609@scrub.home>


* Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org> wrote:

> > Sorry if it was previously your idea and if we didnt credit you for it.
> > I did not keep track of each word said in these endless mail threads. We
> > credited every suggestion and idea which we picked up from you, see our
> > previous emails. If we missed one, it was definitely not intentional.
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=112755827327101
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=112760582427537
> 
> A bit later ktime_t looked pretty much like the 64bit part of my 
> ktimespec.

and Thomas credited you for that point in his announcement:

 " Roman pointed out that the penalty for some architectures
   would be quite big when using the nsec_t (64bit) scalar time
   storage format. "

  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=112794069605537&w=2

also, once you came up with actual modifications to the ktimers concept 
(the ptimer queue) we noticed a further refinement of ktime_t in that 
code: the elimination of the plain scalar type. We gave you credit 
again:

" - eliminate the plain s64 scalar type, and always use the union.
    This simplifies the arithmetics. Idea from Roman Zippel. "

see:

   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113339663027117&w=2
   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113382965626004&w=2

we couldnt take your actual patch/code though, due to the way you 
created the ptimer queue: you took our ktimer queue, added a dozen 
changes to it (intermixed, without keeping/disclosing the changes), then 
you split up the resulting queue. This structure made it largely 
incompatible with our queue, the diff between ktimers and ptimers was 
larger than the two patches themselves, due to the stacked changed! This 
is not a complaint - we are happy you are writing ktimer based code - 
this is just an explanation of why we couldnt take the code/patch as-is 
but had to redo that portion from scratch, based on your idea.

> I don't won't to imply any intention, but please try to see this from 
> my perspective, after this happens a number of times.

What the hell are you talking about? I bloody well know how it all 
happened, because i did those simplifications to ktime.h myself, and i 
added the changelog too, crediting you for the idea.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06  0:01 [patch 00/21] hrtimer - High-resolution timer subsystem tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 01/21] Move div_long_long_rem out of jiffies.h tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 02/21] Remove duplicate div_long_long_rem implementation tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 03/21] Deinline mktime and set_normalized_timespec tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 04/21] Clean up mktime and make arguments const tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 05/21] Export deinlined mktime tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 06/21] Remove unused clock constants tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 07/21] Coding style clean up of " tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 08/21] Coding style and white space cleanup tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 09/21] Make clockid_t arguments const tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 10/21] Coding style and white space cleanup tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 11/21] Create and use timespec_valid macro tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 12/21] Validate timespec of do_sys_settimeofday tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 13/21] Introduce nsec_t type and conversion functions tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 14/21] Introduce ktime_t time format tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 15/21] hrtimer core code tglx
2005-12-15  3:43   ` Matt Helsley
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 16/21] hrtimer documentation tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 17/21] Switch itimers to hrtimer tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 18/21] Create hrtimer nanosleep API tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 19/21] Switch sys_nanosleep to hrtimer tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 20/21] Switch clock_nanosleep to hrtimer nanosleep API tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 21/21] Convert posix timers completely tglx
2005-12-06 17:32 ` [patch 00/21] hrtimer - High-resolution timer subsystem Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 19:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07  3:05     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-08  5:18       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-08  8:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-08  9:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-08 13:08         ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-08 15:36           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 22:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-07  3:11     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 22:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-07  9:31     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-07 10:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 10:23         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 10:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 11:09             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 11:33               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 11:40                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 13:06                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 12:40               ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 23:12                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 12:18     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 16:55       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-12-07 17:17         ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 17:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 18:18             ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 18:02           ` Paul Baxter
2005-12-09 17:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-12 13:39         ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-12 16:42           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-12 18:37             ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-13  1:25             ` George Anzinger
2005-12-13  9:18               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-15  1:35               ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-15  2:29                 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-19 14:56                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-19 20:54                     ` George Anzinger
2005-12-21 23:03                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-22  4:30                         ` George Anzinger
2005-12-14 20:48             ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-14 22:30               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-15  0:55                 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-15 14:18                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-19 14:50                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-19 22:05                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-13 12:45 Nicolas Mailhot
2005-12-13 23:38 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-14  8:58   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-14 10:03   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2005-12-15  1:11     ` George Anzinger

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