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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [patch 00/21] hrtimer - High-resolution timer subsystem
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:12:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051208081217.GA21696@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051207211834.7fa03903.pj@sgi.com>


* Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> wrote:

> So just take all descriptions of other persons, and flip them around, 
> pretending to describe yourself.  It will be a bold faced lie, and 
> totally illogical ... but that's typical in the realm of human 
> emotions.  The human species is definitely one dorked up bunch.

> "sorry for being such a stupid git, but ...".

it does not matter that it's a bold faced lie, people technically 'lie' 
about little things all the time and for a good reason - the human 
species (especially males) are way to agressive by default, so a certain 
conscious buffer zone is needed to even that out. (It is in fact a 
medical condition if that buffer-zone does not exist.)

But there's a crutial difference. A statement from Linus (or you) like 
the one above also shows three more things that are important:

1) that you have a sense of humor, and that you dont take things too
   seriously :) Humor goes a long way defusing differences.

2) that you actually entertain the possibility of being wrong and that
   you do not just want to steamroll the other side with your opinion.

3) that you actually care about the other person. This matters alot.
   There's a reason why hundreds of people who never met each other join
   on a mailing list and write code, and the reason is definitely not to
   have others piss on their code.

> Thanks, by the way, for your help back then on cpuset locking.  It was 
> invaluable.

i took some time and re-read your thread with Roman about cpusets back 
in September. It was like fresh air! Roman was totally reasonable and 
positive in that thread - so i dont think it's me or Thomas misreading 
his style in this case or something.

anyway, the reason i confronted Roman with the situation was in the 
renewed hope to improve direct communication. I'm still hopeful :)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-08  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06  0:01 [patch 00/21] hrtimer - High-resolution timer subsystem tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 01/21] Move div_long_long_rem out of jiffies.h tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 02/21] Remove duplicate div_long_long_rem implementation tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 03/21] Deinline mktime and set_normalized_timespec tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 04/21] Clean up mktime and make arguments const tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 05/21] Export deinlined mktime tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 06/21] Remove unused clock constants tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 07/21] Coding style clean up of " tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 08/21] Coding style and white space cleanup tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 09/21] Make clockid_t arguments const tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 10/21] Coding style and white space cleanup tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 11/21] Create and use timespec_valid macro tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 12/21] Validate timespec of do_sys_settimeofday tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 13/21] Introduce nsec_t type and conversion functions tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 14/21] Introduce ktime_t time format tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 15/21] hrtimer core code tglx
2005-12-15  3:43   ` Matt Helsley
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 16/21] hrtimer documentation tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 17/21] Switch itimers to hrtimer tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 18/21] Create hrtimer nanosleep API tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 19/21] Switch sys_nanosleep to hrtimer tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 20/21] Switch clock_nanosleep to hrtimer nanosleep API tglx
2005-12-06  0:01 ` [patch 21/21] Convert posix timers completely tglx
2005-12-06 17:32 ` [patch 00/21] hrtimer - High-resolution timer subsystem Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 19:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07  3:05     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-08  5:18       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-08  8:12         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-12-08  9:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-08 13:08         ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-08 15:36           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 22:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-07  3:11     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-06 22:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-07  9:31     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-07 10:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 10:23         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 10:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 11:09             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 11:33               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 11:40                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 13:06                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 12:40               ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 23:12                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-07 12:18     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 16:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 17:17         ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 17:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-07 18:18             ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-07 18:02           ` Paul Baxter
2005-12-09 17:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-12 13:39         ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-12 16:42           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-12 18:37             ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-13  1:25             ` George Anzinger
2005-12-13  9:18               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-15  1:35               ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-15  2:29                 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-19 14:56                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-19 20:54                     ` George Anzinger
2005-12-21 23:03                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-22  4:30                         ` George Anzinger
2005-12-14 20:48             ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-14 22:30               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-15  0:55                 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-15 14:18                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-19 14:50                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-19 22:05                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-13 12:45 Nicolas Mailhot
2005-12-13 23:38 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-14  8:58   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-14 10:03   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2005-12-15  1:11     ` George Anzinger

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