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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, kay.sievers@vrfy.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL"
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:38:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071201113815.5df0960a@freepuppy.rosehill> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071201192341.6750fbdb@the-village.bc.nu>

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:23:41 +0000
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> > Then init_net needs to be not GPL limited. Sorry, we need to allow
> > non GPL network drivers.  There is a fine line between keeping the
> 
> Why - they aren't exactly likely to be permissible by law

Matter of debate in which there are several opinions.
I don't like binary modules either, but don't feel qualified to render
a legal opinion.

> 
> > binary seething masses from accessing random kernel functions, and allowing
> > reasonable (but still non GPL) things like ndiswrapper to use network
> > device interface.
> 
> Its up to the ndiswrapper authors how the licence their code, but they
> should respect how we licence ours.

Then change the license, explicitly and get it approved, forcing license
changes by technically subversive means is bad policy. It is like Euro bureaucrats
sneaking in software patents in regulations. If you want to have the debate and
can get it resolved, then I support you.

Actually, the whole mess would go away if the api for dev_get_by_XXXX hadn't
been changed in the namespace transition. IMHO the interface to dev_get_by_name()
should not have added a namespace parameter, of the callers in the tree, only
two use a different namespace. So it would have been better to to introduce
dev_get_by_name_ns() with the extra parameter.

Can we get this resolved before 2.6.24 is released? Going back and forth
on API's is just needless frottage.

-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-01 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-01  9:06 [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] sysfs: Make sysfs_mount static again Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:13   ` [PATCH 02/10] sysfs: Support for preventing unmounts Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:16     ` [PATCH 03/10] sysfs: sysfs_get_dentry add a sb parameter Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:18       ` [PATCH 04/10] sysfs: Implement __sysfs_get_dentry Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:23         ` [PATCH 05/10] sysfs: Rename Support multiple superblocks Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:25           ` [PATCH 06/10] sysfs: sysfs_chmod_file handle " Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:28             ` [PATCH 07/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs tagged directory support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:30               ` [PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs_delete_link and sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:33                 ` [PATCH 09/10] driver core: Implement tagged directory support for device classes Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:35                   ` [PATCH 10/10] net: Enable tagging for net_class directories in sysfs Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 13:10 ` namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL" Mark Lord
2007-12-01 13:13   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 19:17   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:23     ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:38       ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2007-12-01 19:45         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 20:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:21           ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 20:29             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-01 22:12               ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 23:13                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:24                   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-12-02  1:14                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:51                   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02  1:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:52             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 22:13             ` Mark Lord
2007-12-03  0:02       ` David Schwartz
2007-12-03  0:14         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-02  0:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02  2:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-02  3:34       ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02  4:23         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02 19:28           ` Ben Greear
2007-12-02 20:03             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-02 20:43               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-02 21:59                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-03  1:14                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-03  8:33                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-03 17:35               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:19                 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-03 18:57                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 15:19                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 18:03                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:44                       ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 19:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 19:35                           ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:09                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05  6:14                           ` David Miller
2007-12-05  6:01                       ` David Miller
2007-12-04 17:59                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:57                     ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:01                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05  6:07                       ` David Miller
2007-12-03  8:24         ` Romano Giannetti
2007-12-03 15:34           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-03 18:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:13             ` David Miller
2007-12-02 13:51       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-02 19:56         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-21  3:07 ` [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Greg KH
2007-12-21 13:04   ` Eric W. Biederman

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