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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL"
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:02:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1y7cd3lc2.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071201163035.321fd554@freepuppy.rosehill> (Stephen Hemminger's message of "Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:30:35 -0800")

Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:17:36 -0800
> Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Then init_net needs to be not GPL limited. Sorry, we need to allow
>> non GPL network drivers.  There is a fine line between keeping the
>> binary seething masses from accessing random kernel functions, and allowing
>> reasonable (but still non GPL) things like ndiswrapper to use network
>> device interface.
>> 
> I spoke too soon earlier, ndiswrapper builds and loads against current
> 2.6.24-rc3. Vmware and proprietary VPN software probably do not. Once again I
> don't
> give a damn, but the enterprise distro vendors certainly care.

It looks like someone found a work around for vmware.

As for proprietary VPN software, the one case that came of David Miller
said we had sufficient alternatives in the kernel that he didn't care.

We have to make a lot of changes to get the network namespaces
complete.  I don't have pity on any external code that breaks because
they won't let me at their code.

If it turns out the code that was broken was an unacknowledged
derivative work and it can't be fixed I have even less pity on
them.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-02  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-01  9:06 [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] sysfs: Make sysfs_mount static again Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:13   ` [PATCH 02/10] sysfs: Support for preventing unmounts Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:16     ` [PATCH 03/10] sysfs: sysfs_get_dentry add a sb parameter Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:18       ` [PATCH 04/10] sysfs: Implement __sysfs_get_dentry Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:23         ` [PATCH 05/10] sysfs: Rename Support multiple superblocks Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:25           ` [PATCH 06/10] sysfs: sysfs_chmod_file handle " Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:28             ` [PATCH 07/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs tagged directory support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:30               ` [PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs_delete_link and sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:33                 ` [PATCH 09/10] driver core: Implement tagged directory support for device classes Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:35                   ` [PATCH 10/10] net: Enable tagging for net_class directories in sysfs Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 13:10 ` namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL" Mark Lord
2007-12-01 13:13   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 19:17   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:23     ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:38       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:45         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 20:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:21           ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 20:29             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-01 22:12               ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 23:13                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:24                   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-12-02  1:14                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:51                   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02  1:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:52             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 22:13             ` Mark Lord
2007-12-03  0:02       ` David Schwartz
2007-12-03  0:14         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-02  0:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02  2:02       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-12-02  3:34       ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02  4:23         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02 19:28           ` Ben Greear
2007-12-02 20:03             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-02 20:43               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-02 21:59                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-03  1:14                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-03  8:33                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-03 17:35               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:19                 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-03 18:57                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 15:19                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 18:03                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:44                       ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 19:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 19:35                           ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:09                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05  6:14                           ` David Miller
2007-12-05  6:01                       ` David Miller
2007-12-04 17:59                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:57                     ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:01                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05  6:07                       ` David Miller
2007-12-03  8:24         ` Romano Giannetti
2007-12-03 15:34           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-03 18:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:13             ` David Miller
2007-12-02 13:51       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-02 19:56         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-21  3:07 ` [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Greg KH
2007-12-21 13:04   ` Eric W. Biederman

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