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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, kay.sievers@vrfy.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL"
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:54:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1bq9a5gxf.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071201111736.297dd99a@freepuppy.rosehill> (Stephen Hemminger's message of "Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:17:36 -0800")

Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:10:17 -0500
> Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca> wrote:
>
>> > Now that we have network namespace support merged it is time to
>> > revisit the sysfs support so we can remove the dependency on !SYSFS.
>> ...
>> 
>> Now that the namespace updates are part of 2.6.24,
>> there is a major inconsistency in network EXPORT_SYMBOLs.
>> 
>> It used to be that an external network module could get away without
>> having to add a MODULE_LICENSE("GPL*") line to the source.
>> 
>> In support of that, common networking functions (still) use EXPORT_SYMBOL()
>> rather than the more restrictive EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL().
>> 
>> Eg.  register_netdev(), sk_alloc(), __dev_get_by_name().
>> 
>> But now, none of those three are actually usable by default,
>> because they all require "init_net", which is EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL().

Which alternative kernel does the above comment apply to?

> Then init_net needs to be not GPL limited. Sorry, we need to allow
> non GPL network drivers.

For the record network drivers should not be affected.  As a practical
measure that just gets unmaintainable and it is unnecessary.

There are specific exceptions where network drivers mess with the userspace
interfaces where I do have some impact.  However if you are messing
with our userspace interface especially with network namespaces in place
I don't see how it is possible for you to be anything other then a derivative
work, and something we need in tree to keep maintenance a manageable thing.

It should just be the core of the network stack that struct net has some
effect on.

> There is a fine line between keeping the
> binary seething masses from accessing random kernel functions, and allowing
> reasonable (but still non GPL) things like ndiswrapper to use network
> device interface.

Does ndiswrapper break?  If so what dubious and unsupportable thing is
it doing?

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-01 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-01  9:06 [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] sysfs: Make sysfs_mount static again Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:13   ` [PATCH 02/10] sysfs: Support for preventing unmounts Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:16     ` [PATCH 03/10] sysfs: sysfs_get_dentry add a sb parameter Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:18       ` [PATCH 04/10] sysfs: Implement __sysfs_get_dentry Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:23         ` [PATCH 05/10] sysfs: Rename Support multiple superblocks Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:25           ` [PATCH 06/10] sysfs: sysfs_chmod_file handle " Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:28             ` [PATCH 07/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs tagged directory support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:30               ` [PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs_delete_link and sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:33                 ` [PATCH 09/10] driver core: Implement tagged directory support for device classes Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01  9:35                   ` [PATCH 10/10] net: Enable tagging for net_class directories in sysfs Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 13:10 ` namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL" Mark Lord
2007-12-01 13:13   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 19:17   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:23     ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:38       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:45         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 20:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:21           ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 20:29             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-01 22:12               ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 23:13                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:24                   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-12-02  1:14                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:51                   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02  1:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:52             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 22:13             ` Mark Lord
2007-12-03  0:02       ` David Schwartz
2007-12-03  0:14         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:54     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-12-02  0:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02  2:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-02  3:34       ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02  4:23         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02 19:28           ` Ben Greear
2007-12-02 20:03             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-02 20:43               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-02 21:59                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-03  1:14                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-03  8:33                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-03 17:35               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:19                 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-03 18:57                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 15:19                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 18:03                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:44                       ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 19:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 19:35                           ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:09                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05  6:14                           ` David Miller
2007-12-05  6:01                       ` David Miller
2007-12-04 17:59                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:57                     ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:01                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05  6:07                       ` David Miller
2007-12-03  8:24         ` Romano Giannetti
2007-12-03 15:34           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-03 18:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:13             ` David Miller
2007-12-02 13:51       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-02 19:56         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-21  3:07 ` [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Greg KH
2007-12-21 13:04   ` Eric W. Biederman

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