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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	avi.kivity@gmail.com,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/15] KVM: MMU: introduce nulls desc
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:15:54 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131206001554.GA28698@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F8A4D0B5-9900-48F3-9CA3-23A5A8CC0B4B@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 11:30:27PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> > Is it not the case that simply moving to the slow path once a maximum of
> > rewalks has been reached enough? (looks a like a good solution).
> 
> In some cases, the lockless walker will do endless-walking on desc and
> without rewalk, consider this case:
> 
> there are two descs: desc1 and desc2 who is pointed by desc1->next:
> desc1->next = desc2.
> 
> CPU 0                                                                            CPU 1
> 
> lockless walk on desc1
>                                                                  deleting desc1 from the rmap
> lockless walk on desc2 (desc1->next)
>                                                                 delete desc2 from the rmap
>                                                                 add desc1
>                                                                 add desc2, then desc2->next = desc1
> 
> lockless walk on desc1
>                                                                delete desc2
>                                                                delete desc1
>                                                                add desc2
>                                                                add desc1; the desc1->next = desc2
> lockless walk on desc2
> 
> ……
> 
> Then, the walker is endlessly walking on desc1 and desc2 without any rewalk.

Ouch, this is the sort of thing that is worrysome. Do you still think
that having the benefit for shadow is important enough to justify this
complexity?

Also, another separate possibility is to use the dirty bit (which recent
Intel processors support). Then there are no faults at all to handle.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-06  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-23 13:29 [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] KVM: MMU: properly check last spte in fast_page_fault() Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-12  0:25   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] KVM: MMU: lazily drop large spte Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-12 22:44   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] KVM: MMU: flush tlb if the spte can be locklessly modified Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-13  0:10   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] KVM: MMU: flush tlb out of mmu lock when write-protect the sptes Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-14  0:36   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-14  5:15     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-14 18:39       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-15  7:09         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-19  0:19           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] KVM: MMU: update spte and add it into rmap before dirty log Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-15  0:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] KVM: MMU: redesign the algorithm of pte_list Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-19  0:48   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] KVM: MMU: introduce nulls desc Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-22 19:14   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-25  6:11     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25  6:29       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 18:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-26  3:21           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-26 10:12             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 19:31             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-28  8:53               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-12-03  7:10                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-12-05 13:50                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-05 15:30                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-12-06  0:15                       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-12-06  0:22                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-10  6:58                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 10:19       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-25 10:25         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 12:48       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-25 14:23         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-25 14:29           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-25 18:06             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-26  3:10           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-26 10:15             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 19:58             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-28  8:32               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 14:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-11-26  3:02         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 10:59       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-25 11:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 11:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] KVM: MMU: introduce pte-list lockless walker Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] KVM: MMU: initialize the pointers in pte_list_desc properly Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] KVM: MMU: allocate shadow pages from slab Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:19   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24  9:29     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:52       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24 10:10         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24 10:39           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24 11:01             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24 12:32               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-28  3:16                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly access shadow page under rcu protection Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] KVM: MMU: check last spte with unawareness of mapping level Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect the page Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:17   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-24  9:24     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-24  9:32       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] KVM: MMU: clean up spte_write_protect Xiao Guangrong
2013-10-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] KVM: MMU: use rcu functions to access the pointer Xiao Guangrong
2013-11-03 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: locklessly write-protect Gleb Natapov
2013-11-11  5:33   ` Xiao Guangrong

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