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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"monstr@monstr.eu" <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	"dhowells@redhat.com" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"broonie@linaro.org" <broonie@linaro.org>,
	"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/18] x86: io: implement dummy relaxed accessor macros for writes
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 15:46:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140523144604.GF21319@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <537E30AF.4070501@zytor.com>

Hi Peter,

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 06:15:27PM +0100, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 05/22/2014 09:47 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > write{b,w,l,q}_relaxed are implemented by some architectures in order to
> > permit memory-mapped I/O accesses with weaker barrier semantics than the
> > non-relaxed variants.
> > 
> > This patch adds dummy macros for the read and write accessors to x86,
> > which simply expand to the non-relaxed variants. Note that this
> > strengthens the relaxed read accessors, since they are now ordered with
> > respect to each other by way of a compiler barrier.
> 
> OK, do we want/need that compiler barrier?  And you say "strengthens" -
> strengthens with respect to what if we didn't have them before?

Actually, x86 does already implement the relaxed read accessors:

	#define readb_relaxed(a) __readb(a)
	#define readw_relaxed(a) __readw(a)
	#define readl_relaxed(a) __readl(a)

where __read* don't have "memory" clobbers, unlike the read* implementations.

I would like the relaxed accessors to be ordered with respect to each other
but, looking again, that is already achieved through the use of volatile asm
so I've come full circle and decided that we don't need the clobbers after
all.

What do you think?

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-23 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-22 16:47 [PATCH v2 00/18] Cross-architecture definitions of relaxed MMIO accessors Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] asm-generic: io: implement relaxed accessor macros as conditional wrappers Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] microblaze: io: remove dummy relaxed accessor macros Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] s390: io: remove dummy relaxed accessor macros for reads Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] xtensa: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] alpha: io: implement relaxed accessor macros for writes Will Deacon
2014-05-22 18:15   ` Richard Henderson
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] frv: io: implement dummy " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] cris: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] ia64: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] m32r: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] m68k: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] mn10300: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] parisc: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] powerpc: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] sparc: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 18:18   ` Sam Ravnborg
2014-05-23 14:38     ` Will Deacon
2014-05-30  0:10       ` David Miller
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] tile: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] x86: " Will Deacon
2014-05-22 17:15   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-23 14:46     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-05-23 14:53       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-23 14:57         ` Will Deacon
2014-05-23 15:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-23 15:34             ` Will Deacon
2014-05-23 15:43               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-23 15:56                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-23 16:12                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-23 16:21                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-23 16:31                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-23 16:35                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] documentation: memory-barriers: clarify relaxed io accessor semantics Will Deacon
2014-05-22 16:47 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] asm-generic: io: define relaxed accessor macros unconditionally Will Deacon
2014-05-25 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Cross-architecture definitions of relaxed MMIO accessors Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-27 19:32   ` Will Deacon
2014-05-27 20:21     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-27 20:32       ` Will Deacon
2014-05-25 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-27 19:34   ` Will Deacon
2014-05-27 20:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-27 20:34       ` Will Deacon

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